Yes, that certainly plays a part, too.
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What is the oldest religion?
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Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
I heard that ancient Eskimos worshipped ice-cream, so that is probably the oldest religion. 
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
What is the oldest religion?
The truthful religion with all its merits is never old.
And it is a fact.
Regards
The truthful religion with all its merits is never old.
And it is a fact.
Regards
arthra
Baha'i
Well two possibilities come to mind on this revived thread...
So we could ask what is the oldest extant religion... that would be probably Hinduism .. at least Vedic elements that still survive and in my view Mazda Yasnian religion because it has many words in common with Vedic religion.
That there have been older religions is also true and we know this from archeological evidence...such as
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gobekli-tepe-the-worlds-first-temple-83613665/?no-ist=
a temple which was erected six thousand years before Stonehenge.
So we could ask what is the oldest extant religion... that would be probably Hinduism .. at least Vedic elements that still survive and in my view Mazda Yasnian religion because it has many words in common with Vedic religion.
That there have been older religions is also true and we know this from archeological evidence...such as
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gobekli-tepe-the-worlds-first-temple-83613665/?no-ist=
a temple which was erected six thousand years before Stonehenge.
outhouse
Atheistically
It could be, but these traditions by what we guess existed 4000 years ago and older, I'm sure are not the same as what we think.
I don't know anything about the pre history of these cultures.
It is not just "a" temple, it is a geographic location with thousands of years worth of multiple temples. It was more of a complex, by my understanding.
But yes at least one existed and the earliest may go back to 8500 years before. 13,500. I think 11.500 is where there at now, and have not reached the bottom older layers.
Interesting site, they keep burying it, and building new ones on top.
Intojoy
Member
The Jewish faith
outhouse
Atheistically
allfoak
Alchemist
As the story goes..
Adam was able to name all things because all things are within man and Adam knew himself completely.
If we want to know all things then we must like Adam, know ourselves completely.
To "Know Thyself" then i would say is the oldest and wisest religion.
All other religion is just detail.
Adam was able to name all things because all things are within man and Adam knew himself completely.
If we want to know all things then we must like Adam, know ourselves completely.
To "Know Thyself" then i would say is the oldest and wisest religion.
All other religion is just detail.
outhouse
Atheistically
That is mythology by all academic standards, it was factually not literal history.
allfoak
Alchemist
Test it for yourself.
It requires no beliefs.
It requires no change in your lifestyle, although if you actually do it your life will change.
There is nothing for you to read, you carry everything you need with you everywhere you go.
No academia, no religions, nothing but you.
There is one requirement.
You must learn to separate the true from the false within yourself.
If you will do this you will eventually learn the truth of the story of which i told.
outhouse
Atheistically
Has nothing to do with the mythology of adam and eve
Intojoy
Member
In the sense of a religion not changing, the Jewish faith has outlasted all others.Factually NO!
proto Israelites started around 1200 BC
outhouse
Atheistically
Intojoy
Member
Yes it is.
If David was to walk the streets of Jerusalem today, same language, same religious writings, same songs.
If Confucius walked in Tinamen Square today, no.
If Sidhatra Gautama walked in India today, no.
Yes my friend from Moses to Netanyahu we have the
Oldest faith on earth in terms of never losing its core identity. My good man.
Selah
End of thread
allfoak
Alchemist
What has nothing to do with the mythology of Adam and Eve?
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
I'm sure Orthodox Jews consider this to be true. Historically, not so much. Really, David can't even be a Jew, as you had to be from Judah, which was post-David, post-civil war. David was an Israelite worshipping a Hebrew God, which was filtered out of Canaanite pantheons.
The oldest of the Vedic hymns very likely date to 4,000 years ago (give or take a century), at minimum, and are unchanged now from what they were back then. Vedic Sanskrit is still functional as a liturgical language for Hinduism, and the Vedic religion itself still exists in at least one Indian community. This is the current academic consensus.
The Buddha spoke Pali, the "parent" language of modern Hindi (and "child" language of Classical Sanskrit). I speak neither, but without the ability to speak either of them, we should be careful about declaring whether or not they'd be mutually intelligible or not. Do you speak either?
Either way, citing Moses is to go from accepted academic consensus and enter into the realm of mythic history. Moses might have existed, but when I last looked, there was no sufficient corroborating evidence for him to be accepted as historical. This realm of mythic history also holds the Vedas, and the Vedic religion, to be eternal, and thus by default the oldest.
THAT SAID, I do concede (based on VERY limited knowledge of the time and region) that it's very likely that at least the post-exile Israelite religion looked very similar to modern Judaism, such that a practitioner back then would probably feel fairly familiar around modern practitioners, moreso than most religions from that time and before. That certainly makes it the religion that's remained very consisent for the longest time, except for the aforementioned Indian community that still practices the Vedic religion.
outhouse
Atheistically
Not even that. Modern Judaism is a Pharisaic type of Judaism that has only existed roughly the last 1800 years, as Judaism rebuilt itself after being run into the ground by Romans.
Post exile they were still quite polytheistic. Monotheism did not even take hold until roughly 200-400 BC
outhouse
Atheistically
Really? Sorry no. The biblical text did not even exist on Davids time if he existed.
Nor the songs, nor the city which he would recognize NOTHING.Was Noah a Jew?
However, Noah's great grandson Nimrod set up false worship in ancient Babylon - Genesis 10:8-10
As the people migrated out of ancient Babylon they took with their their religious-myth beliefs and spread them world wide into a greater religious Babylon or Babylon the Great.
That is why we see so many similar overlapping religious-myth ideas and practices all over the earth today. Even astrology gives its base as being in ancient Babylon.