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What is the purpose of life? Why were we put on earth?

DavyCrocket2003

Well-Known Member
^I'd like to point out that Victor Frankyl has the right to talk. He was actually there in the concentration camps. He knows what it was like. Amazing man.

So, purpose of life huh? Why were we put here? I would just like to say that I think we chose to come here. And that the reason for coming here was to learn, grow, and increase the amount of truth and light that we have (which brings joy of course) and to help others do the same. I don't fully understand existence yet (I let you know when I figure it out ;) ) but I know that it's all about people. And I know people don't start here or end here. Maybe it's to become one. Isn't that what Zion is? To be of one heart and one mind?
 

Dezzie

Well-Known Member
This is one of those questions I can never find the true answer to. I used to think that the purpose of life is to live... and make a change... feel happiness and sadness and love. Then you think of what happens after you die... do you really go to Heaven, or do you just cease to exist? What would be the point of living then if you just don't exist anymore after death? It doesn't seem like there would be any reliable reason to life itself if that was the case. If there is a Heaven, well, That is your ultimate goal. To reach Heaven and be with the people you love.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm here to party, have fun, and get laid. The plan is working out great so far.
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
Not if you're doing it right.
Maybe boring ws the wrong word, burned out is more like it.

I mean I can only give so many girls so many orgasms, I recall one time a girl simply passed out after multiple orgasms, I thought she died! It was then I realized I had better take it easy on the world...

I have sense retired from sexual activity of such kind, it is my gift to all the men in the world.
 
It was an accident, sorry. Try to make the best of it.

When one considers analytical details about us, the earth and our solar system, the view that life came about by accident has caused many to reevaluate this belief. For example, our solar system is located in what is called the galactic habitable zone, being about 28,000 light years from the center of the Milky Way galaxy. Why is this important ? Because this area contains just the right concentrations of chemical elements needed to support life. Farther out, these necessary elements are too scarce; farther in, too dangerous because of potentially lethal radiation. The magazine Scientific American said that "we live in prime real estate."

Yet no less "prime" is earth's "address " within the solar system. Being about 93 million miles from the sun, the earth's orbit is what scientists call the circumstellar habitable zone, where life neither freezes nor fries. In addition, earth's path is almost circular, so that we are nearly the same distance from the sun year-round. Combine this with the fact that the sun is called the perfect "powerhouse", because of it's stability, size and emits just the right amount of energy for life to exist on the earth. Up to this point, does this sound like this came about by accident ?

Now consider the moon. The moon is just over one-quarter the size of the earth. When compared with other moons in our solar system, our moon is unusually large in relation to it's host planet. Is this important ? Yes, for the gravitational pull of the moon causes the earth's tilt of 23.4 degrees. Without the gravitational pull of the moon, the earth would tilt practically on it's side, up to 85 degrees, causing extreme heat on one side and freezing cold on the other, with the resulting climatic, tidal, and other changes being catastrophic.

Furthermore, the moon is the principal cause of ocean tides, which play a vital role in earth' s ecology. Does this sound like this all came about by coincidence ? Or does this make one realize that these features could not have come about by accident, but that these were placed in their exact positions by a Creator who has a grand purpose for those who want to come to know him ? Does this not this speak of purposeful design ?

In the Bible, the book of Revelation makes this statement: "You are worthy, Jehovah, even our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they existed and were created.”(Rev 4:11)
 

Bobbyh

Infinite Nothingness
Nothing reflects everything. Our perceptive awareness just happens to be encompassed within these particular patterns constructing the fabric of reality.

If not you and now, then someone or something else, somewhere else.

What answers do you really need to find satisfaction with just being and enduring love. Love and suffering are the parallel recursional waves that form reason for an aware mind. We surf those waves to give a sense of purpose for life and perception.

Love and suffering are just evolved spatial patterns of everything reflecting nothingness.

There's no limit as to where one could be except that it could not, be nowhere.

Earth is pretty enough and satisfies sustaining the processes required to form a sense of being ones self. So in the end I don't think it matters why you are here and on Earth. I think it matters more of what you are doing with the life you are aware of experiencing right now.

There's no test to satisfy God. You are a facet of God. Of Everything. There is nothing else. Love or Suffering. That's all there is, so choose a path and experience it.

maybe?
 

Smoke

Done here.
Why were we put on earth?
I don't know about the rest of you, but my dad says my mother was lonely and homesick living in Wisconsin, and thought having a baby would help. But they went back to Florida before I was born anyway.
 

Requia

Active Member
When one considers analytical details about us, the earth and our solar system, the view that life came about by accident has caused many to reevaluate this belief. For example, our solar system is located in what is called the galactic habitable zone, being about 28,000 light years from the center of the Milky Way galaxy. Why is this important ? Because this area contains just the right concentrations of chemical elements needed to support life. Farther out, these necessary elements are too scarce; farther in, too dangerous because of potentially lethal radiation. The magazine Scientific American said that "we live in prime real estate."

It should hardly be surprising we live in an area that supports life, we are after all life.

It's also worth noting that I do not dispute the existence of a creator, merely his competence.
 
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Thief

Rogue Theologian
It should hardly be surprising we live in an area that supports life, we are after all life.

It's also worth noting that I do not dispute the existence of a creator, merely his competence.

Going to stand before God and repeat that?
 
It should hardly be surprising we live in an area that supports life, we are after all life.

It's also worth noting that I do not dispute the existence of a creator, merely his competence.

People are quick to criticize God, but slow to examine analytical details concerning the preciseness necessary for life. How can you feel that God lacks competence since he created the earth, with all life on it, much less the universe ? Apart from the earth, no human or animal life exist anywhere else, making it unique. Could you create life, making all things on the earth (and universe) work harmoniously ? Unfortunately, many fit what Psalms 10:4 says, that "the wicked one according to his superciliousness makes no search. All his ideas are: "There is no God."

Let's look again at God's "competence". Take for example, water. Where life is, there is water, and usually in abundance, which is three times more abundant than all other substances. In fact, the earth is the only planet covered with water. All other planets in our solar system have no water and therefore no life (along with the fact that they are either too cold or too hot due to being at distance inhospitable to life). Water is the only substance that occurs naturally as a solid, liquid and gas. It is also the most universal and powerful solvent. Was this by accident from an "incompetent" God or was this an arrangement for life to exist forever by a competent God ?

Consider also this. Water as it gets colder, it contracts and condenses, becoming heavier and sinks to the bottom of any pool of water. However, it is unique when it freezes, not sinking to the bottom, and thus encapsulating all fish or sea creatures in a frozen grave. Rather than continuing to contract, it expands and becomes lighter than liquid cold water, floating to the top, forming a protective shield on top. Why is this important ? Life is protected from being encased in a layer of ice. Otherwise, lakes and other pools of water would become a frozen wasteland, whereby all fish would die. Water's unique properties causes it to expand upon freezing (by 9%), floating to the top, a property shared with few other substances, and also serves as an insulator. Is this a lack of competence, or a grand design that causes life to exist ? Would you have thought of this ?

What about trees ? How is water able to overcome gravity to feed trees and their leaves, since there is no pump to push water from the roots all the way to the top ? This is due to a specific property of water (which is a polar molecule), called a hydrogen bond, whereby hydrogen molecules possessing a positive charge and oxygen molecules possessing a negative charge are attracted to each other. This attraction allows water to be drawn up the tree all the way to the top of the tallest trees, such as the redwoods that are about 300 feet tall. Otherwise, all trees and vegetation would die of "starvation" from lack of water and we as well. Was God incompetent when he placed this "law" into effect for the everlasting benefit of mankind ?

Even proteins, the fundamental building block of ourselves, have a special relationship with water. To function correctly, a protein must be folded into a specific three dimensional shape, and this crucial folding process is guided by subtle interactions between the protein and water. Is this incompetence by God or wonderful arrangement by a competent God for life to exist, such as you and I ?

Look a little more closely concerning the earth, at why the earth is just the exact size it is. If it were larger, it would have a slightly stronger gravitational field and therefore hydrogen, a light gas, could not escape into space, building up and eventually rendering our planet inhospitable. On the other hand, if it were slightly smaller, with a weaker gravitational field, life sustaining oxygen and surface water would escape, and eventually our planet would be barren from the loss of all water. In either case, if the earth were slightly larger or smaller, life would cease to exist.

If the distance from the sun were to variate by more than 5 percent, it would be either too hot or too cold. Does this show God's incompetence or competence to precisely form our earth just the right size for life and place it in just the right distance from the sun ? If shoes fits just right, is this an accident or did we not try them on before we bought them to see that they fit properly ? Likewise, our Creator made sure that life would exist eternally, with all everything about the earth designed just right for total harmony, fitting properly, for those who will obey him and therefore can look forward to living forever on a paradise earth in the "abundance of peace."(Ps 37:11,29; Luke 23:43)
 
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McBell

Unbound
People are quick to criticize God, but slow to examine analytical details concerning the preciseness necessary for life. How can you feel that God lacks competence since he created the earth, with all life on it, much less the universe ? Apart from the earth, no human or animal life exist anywhere else, making it unique. Could you create life, making all things on the earth (and universe) work harmoniously ? Unfortunately, many fit what Psalms 10:4 says, that "the wicked one according to his superciliousness makes no search. All his ideas are: "There is no God."

Let's look again at God's "competence". Take for example, water. Where life is, there is water, and usually in abundance, which is three times more abundant than all other substances. In fact, the earth is the only planet covered with water. All other planets in our solar system have no water and therefore no life (along with the fact that they are either too cold or too hot due to being at distance inhospitable to life). Water is the only substance that occurs naturally as a solid, liquid and gas. It is also the most universal and powerful solvent. Was this by accident from an "incompetent" God or was this an arrangement for life to exist forever by a competent God ?

Consider also this. Water as it gets colder, it contracts and condenses, becoming heavier and sinks to the bottom of any pool of water. However, it is unique when it freezes, not sinking to the bottom, and thus encapsulating all fish or sea creatures in a frozen grave. Rather than continuing to contract, it expands and becomes lighter than liquid cold water, floating to the top, forming a protective shield on top. Why is this important ? Life is protected from being encased in a layer of ice. Otherwise, lakes and other pools of water would become a frozen wasteland, whereby all fish would die. Water's unique properties causes it to expand upon freezing (by 9%), floating to the top, a property shared with few other substances, and also serves as an insulator. Is this a lack of competence, or a grand design that causes life to exist ? Would you have thought of this ?

What about trees ? How is water able to overcome gravity to feed trees and their leaves, since there is no pump to push water from the roots all the way to the top ? This is due to a specific property of water (which is a polar molecule), called a hydrogen bond, whereby hydrogen molecules possessing a positive charge and oxygen molecules possessing a negative charge are attracted to each other. This attraction allows water to be drawn up the tree all the way to the top of the tallest trees, such as the redwoods that are about 300 feet tall. Otherwise, all trees and vegetation would die of "starvation" from lack of water and we as well. Was God incompetent when he placed this "law" into effect for the everlasting benefit of mankind ?

Even proteins, the fundamental building block of ourselves, have a special relationship with water. To function correctly, a protein must be folded into a specific three dimensional shape, and this crucial folding process is guided by subtle interactions between the protein and water. Is this incompetence by God or wonderful arrangement by a competent God for life to exist, such as you and I ?

Look a little more closely concerning the earth, at why the earth is just the exact size it is. If it were larger, it would have a slightly stronger gravitational field and therefore hydrogen, a light gas, could not escape into space, building up and eventually rendering our planet inhospitable. On the other hand, if it were slightly smaller, with a weaker gravitational field, life sustaining oxygen and surface water would escape, and eventually our planet would be barren from the loss of all water. In either case, if the earth were slightly larger or smaller, life would cease to exist.

If the distance from the sun were to variate by more than 5 percent, it would be either too hot or too cold. Does this show God's incompetence or competence to precisely form our earth just the right size for life and place it in just the right distance from the sun ? If shoes fits just right, is this an accident or did we not try them on before we bought them to see that they fit properly ? Likewise, our Creator made sure that life would exist eternally, with all everything about the earth designed just right for total harmony, fitting properly, for those who will obey him and therefore can look forward to living forever on a paradise earth in the "abundance of peace."(Ps 37:11,29; Luke 23:43)
The water puddle looks around and says "this hole was built just for me. Just look at how it is the exactly right shape and size for me to fit into it."
 
The water puddle looks around and says "this hole was built just for me. Just look at how it is the exactly right shape and size for me to fit into it."

You are among many that mock the evidence that we, along with all life and the earth itself did not come about by accident but is intentional by a Grand Creator, Jehovah God. In replying to Job, an Oriental man living in about the 17th century B.C.E, God asks him some very deep thought-provoking questions. He inquires of Job, saying: "Who is this that is obscuring counsel by words without knowledge ? Gird up your loins, please, like an able-bodied man, and let me question you, and you inform me. Where did you happen to be when I founded the earth ? Tell me, if you do know understanding. Who set its measurements, in case you know, or who stretched out upon it the measuring line ? Into what have its socket pedestals been sunk down, or who laid its cornerstone, when the morning stars joyfully cried out together, and all the sons of God (angels) began shouting in applause ?"(Job 38:1-7)

To believe that the earth, much less the universe, is a product of chance, is as the apostle Paul said, "inexcusable."(Rom 1:20) No one questions the electronic technological wonders that are being made, as if these came about chance. Yet, the earth, with all it's overwhelming variety of life, among other things, is seen as accidental or a product a mindless entity called evolution.

I need not ask if anything has designed itself, for any reasonable person recognizes that all the things we use were designed by someone. Yet many want to wish away the sound fact that we and all the universe, were designed and created by a Grand Creator, who created life and set in motion a marvelous self-maintaining ecological system, that when not tampered with, functions flawlessly. It is because these ones does not want to be told anything at any time. These ones are not humble nor truly teachable when it comes to being taught by God and are among the great masses of mankind that feel this way.
 
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