What is the State?

[Stevicus]

Some day. In terms of maturity, the US reminds me of an adolescent.

Actually, I think we're past adolescence and in our midlife crisis stage.

 

[syo]

What is the State to you?

Juridically, philosophically, socially, economically, politically and anthropologically, ...be as accurate as possible.

Fraud.

 

[sun rise]

Actually, I think we're past adolescence and in our midlife crisis stage.

That could work as well.

 

[sun rise]

Ours is binding because we have Constitutional Courts which are supposed to rule over the violation of the Constitution.
But our CC is extremely politicized and biased.

So this Court will si
ply ignore these violations.

Ours is politicized and biased as well.

 

[Estro Felino]

Ours is politicized and biased as well.

Our Constitutional Court deals with Constitutional matters only. The ordinary law matters, civil and penal are dealt by the Court of Cassation. The administrative matters by the State Council.
But yes, the SCOTUS is 100% political.

 

[an anarchist]

In a socialist State, the State will help

Is there an example in history where the State has not become increasingly corrupt and tyrannical? I don’t think so. I think the history of every State shows a descent into totalitarianism. Look at the USA,; our federal government started off as very limited and small. Now we our federal government is involved in every aspect of our lives. Of course, you as a socialist probably see this as good. But as well as the Stats becoming bigger, the USA government has become increasingly corrupt and totalitarian. This holds true for every country. That is because a government is made up of individuals with mal intent for the most part.
So when you say the State will help, I disagree. I think the very existence of it endangers all.
There can be economic arguments made that the existence of the State hampers people opening up business. Austrian economics is what I agree with, Mises and that lot.

 

[Estro Felino]

Is there an example in history where the State has not become increasingly corrupt and tyrannical? I don’t think so. I think the history of every State shows a descent into totalitarianism. Look at the USA,; our federal government started off as very limited and small. Now we our federal government is involved in every aspect of our lives. Of course, you as a socialist probably see this as good. But as well as the Stats becoming bigger, the USA government has become increasingly corrupt and totalitarian. This holds true for every country. That is because a government is made up of individuals with mal intent for the most part.
So when you say the State will help, I disagree. I think the very existence of it endangers all.
There can be economic arguments made that the existence of the State hampers people opening up business. Austrian economics is what I agree with, Mises and that lot.

I am speaking theoretically, indeed.

Practically, history has showed that so many times, public servants took advantage of the situation and go corrupt.

But that is not a good reason why we should stop trying to achieve perfection through selecting these public servants.

 

[an anarchist]

I am speaking theoretically, indeed.

Anarcho-capitalists speak a lot in theory too. We say “if a government didn’t exist then everything would work out” but yet at every opportunity, humans will choose to found a government rather than have no government. So if it’s even possible for a government not to exist, that’s theoretical too

 

[osgart]

To me the State is a supreme, abstract entity to whom I am absolutely loyal.

It is a principle that is superior to my religious beliefs (which are private and personal, so insignificant than the notion of State).

It is an entity that represents the common good, or common welfare.
Which is a supreme being, to whom all citizens and their own will have to bow.

The State becomes tangibile in its written form, the Constitution. The Grundnorm, philosophical concept that describes a list of principles that pursue justice and equity.

So to me the Grundnorm comes first.
My personal or religious beliefs come second.

That is why the State shall be social, democratic, secular, and founded upon fundamental human rights.
Like the right to work, the freedom of speech, the freedom of religion, the right to self-fulfillment.

It's always a necessity to have a fair, balanced Constitution with predefined limits to power and an effective checks and balances system. The Constitution is a guideline for all people to follow that should protect the majority from the minority rule. Establishing fair and equal laws for all, the Constitution should protect and regulate economic, and social justice. Private ownership is a set of rights that should be protected. Social welfare must be granted to its citizens. I'm against state ownership of the factors of economy and production.

The state is under the rule of the Constitution. The state is the ruling parties and authorities granted by the citizen majority by way of vote. Such ruling parties and authorities should be bound to and subject to democratic laws. The state should be treated as citizens are treated ideally. There should be another ruling body set up solely for the purpose of judging the lawfulness of state actions, and granted no other powers.

So the state is executive, judicial, and legislative with departments for defense, health, social, and economic reasons among others. I wish to see an independent ruling body that defends against the abuses of the state with equal representation from all political parties, and equal representation from each governed body.