what is the true religion?

[.lava]

no need to be sorry

no? my bad, sorry

My genes and my environment.

genes how? (not saying i disagree though, i am not sure)

as you may know, in our practice we try not to change outside world. we change the inside and outside reflects our inner work. that's why i am a bit unsure about how environment plays a role on the opposite direction. if environment shapes your inside world, you depend on outside. different conditions of different places would show you another aspect of your own. but would person's life time be enough to experience all the possibilities in this world? and how could a life time journey be completed spiritually?

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[sandandfoam]

genes how? (not saying i disagree though, i am not sure)

I believe we inherit archetypes Jungian archetypes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

if environment shapes your inside world, you depend on outside. different conditions of different places would show you another aspect of your own. but would person's life time be enough to experience all the possibilities in this world? and how could a life time journey be completed spiritually?

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I do not think the contents of our psyche are limited by our experience, I believe there is a depth to our minds that is awe inspiring. One example of something observable that could not be obtained through experience is the preference new born infants have for their mothers faces. I think our psyche rests on the mountain of human experience that has gone before us. I believe we are not alone on our journey, we carry the genes of countless generations who have gone before. I think we are part of a never ending process.
I think environment undoubtedly shapes our inner worlds. For example the majority of people in Ireland are Roman Catholic and the majority of people in Turkey are Muslim.

 

[kai]

hmm...i believe it is my second language that caused this, my bad, sorry. i mean, you are just like me, just an individual without any special duty to lead people to agony.

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dont worry Lava i understand you, (well most of the time) and you do a fine job of understanding sudden lightning

 

[sandandfoam]

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what does feed your psyche?

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Hi Lava, I read this since posting
"a human is really a god suffering from amnesia, laziness and nightmares"
and
"The existential and psychological predicament of the human soul ...is that it fails to remember what it is and where its true home is located."
I believe we underestimate the depth of our psyche, I have been thinking more about how to respond to your question and I think that perhaps our psyche does not require feeding, that everything is in there. Accessing it is the problem and the task.

 

[Riverwolf]

If God is in the human psyche, then he is no less important than if he were an external force.

That's what I believe.

 

[Super Universe]

Think of a very large house, a beautiful Victorian. In one large room the Catholics look around and study their surroundings then they walk out into the hallway and meet the Muslims who are from another large room though it is slightly different. They debate what the whole house looks like but they only know their rooms and the hallway.

From another room come the Hindu's who have their own version of the house, then the Mormons come out of their room, the Unitarians come out of the closet and the Jews come out of the bathroom. Each tries to tell everyone what the house looks like but each only knows their own room.

If they would put aside their ego's and find common ground (there's quite a lot if you look for it - trinity/Brahma-Vishnu-Shiva for instance) and blend in the differences they would have a much greater, and more correct, understanding of what the house really looks like.

Oh, and this is only one floor of the house. On another floor there are rooms with Biologists, Physicists, Chemists, Geologists, and Astronomers, in each.

And there's a great deal outside the house as well but that is for another discussion.

 

[pray4me]

I agree that there is no one true religion. All religions and belief systems have grains of truth. The truth is that no religion can be perfect because the people who decide those religions aren't. To be one true religion, THE religion which all people must follow, it must be perfect or unflawed. My belief is that if you treat people right and you do your best to live a moral life you are well on your way.

 

[theMadJW]

Every person who has recieved truth, and lives by it..is a true religion unto themselves.

Ahh! But Truth is provable- and everyone thinks they have it!

 

[kai]

Think of a very large house, a beautiful Victorian. In one large room the Catholics look around and study their surroundings then they walk out into the hallway and meet the Muslims who are from another large room though it is slightly different. They debate what the whole house looks like but they only know their rooms and the hallway.

From another room come the Hindu's who have their own version of the house, then the Mormons come out of their room, the Unitarians come out of the closet and the Jews come out of the bathroom. Each tries to tell everyone what the house looks like but each only knows their own room.

If they would put aside their ego's and find common ground (there's quite a lot if you look for it - trinity/Brahma-Vishnu-Shiva for instance) and blend in the differences they would have a much greater, and more correct, understanding of what the house really looks like.

Oh, and this is only one floor of the house. On another floor there are rooms with Biologists, Physicists, Chemists, Geologists, and Astronomers, in each.

And there's a great deal outside the house as well but that is for another discussion.

you think you could get them to live in the same house? they cant even share the world

 

[theMadJW]

Great illustration!
(Except the Trinity lie)

Just as our Lord said- FEW find the narrow road!

 

[S-word]

Great illustration!

(Except the Trinity lie)

Just as our Lord said- FEW find the narrow road!

Each and everyday I pray that one day the lord will open the eyes and unstop the ears of the Jw's whose mind have been made dull by the servant of the Lord, to whom God said in Isaiah 6: 10. "Make the minds of these people dull, their ears deaf, and their eyes blind, so that they cannot hear or see or understand. If they did, they might turn to me and be healed."

 

[Luminous]

Pastafarianism!

 

[zenzero]

Friend yor,

what is the true religion?

True religion is a WAY; that is not a WAY.

A way means a path that one follows and when one is already there there is no need to GO anywhere. It is HERE-NOW.
Love & rgds

 

[S-word]

Friend yor,

True religion is a WAY; that is not a WAY.

A way means a path that one follows and when one is already there there is no need to GO anywhere. It is HERE-NOW.
Love & rgds

The pathway one should be seeking is the pathway through the wilderness into the promised kingdom of God, and the kindom of God that is HERE-NOW , is the body of the Lord of all creatures, the most high in the creation. But the promised Kingdom of God, which is soon to appear, is the glorious light body in which is the intellect=spirt, that has developed in the body of mankind, 'the light of man' that was gained from the sufferings endured, because of the sins and mistakes that were made by the body in which the Son of Man develops. The pathway I seek, is to the doorway that leads into the brilliant and glorious enclosure of light, that flesh and blood cannot inherit and the only one who opens that door, is our Lord Jesus Christ..

 

[zenzero]

Friend S-word,

only one who opens that door, is our Lord Jesus Christ.

HERE-NOW the door has/is always OPEN.

Those who want someone else to open their doors are always welcome as there are *n* number of people including brother Jesus; ever present with open doors BUT only needs someone to SEE IT [doors].

*Look at the finger pointing at the moon*;
do not watch the finger or the moon.
See the whole picture.

Love & rgds

 

[theMadJW]

I think finding the true religion is less important than finding the true God. I believe that God reveals Himself to people and some people choose to see it.

Mad: You can't find one without the other!
I God masquerading in different costumes?
Is he Budda, one of the Hindu Gods?
The G_d of modern Judiasm?
The 3 Gods ('Trinity') of CHURCHianity?
The Endless Gods in Mormonism?
Jehovah of the Bible?
Aliens from Outer Space?
Nature?

Only ONE of the above has any evidence and facts
pointing one in the right direction- IF they are not
influenced by Tradition of their peers!

 

[cardero]

there is a lot of denomenation in our time, who telling the truth?

No human-made religion is “the TRUE religion.” Each organization has a little bit of TRUTH here, a little bit of good there. But none are complete. It is up to each INDIVIDUAL to make what he or she can of life in accordance with the chosen religion (whether it may BE an organized religion or a religion within yourself).

HELLO IT'S ME: An Interview With GOD
Chapter: Religion
Pg: 42

 

[BruceDLimber]

Greetings!

>What is the true religion?

I would say there are MANY!

I quote from the Baha'i scriptures:

"There can be no doubt whatever that the peoples of the world, of whatever race or religion, derive their inspiration from one heavenly Source, and are the subjects of one God. The difference between the ordinances under which they abide should be attributed to the varying requirements and exigencies of the age in which they were revealed. All of them, except a few which are the outcome of human perversity, were ordained of God, and are a reflection of His Will and Purpose. Arise and, armed with the power of faith, shatter to pieces the gods of your vain imaginings, the sowers of dissension amongst you. Cleave unto that which draweth you together and uniteth you."

(The Proclamation of Baha'u'llah, p. 114;
also Gleanings, CXI, pp. 217-8)

Best!

Bruce

 

[ayani]

there are many, many religions.

many of them making similar claims to their final authority, and many saying similar things socially / ethically. all of them hold out exclusive offers of peace, meaning, truth, and "rightness". even a pantheist who believes that all religions say the same things in different ways will believe herself "more correct" than a Christian who points to Christ as the only way, or a Hare Krishna who holds Krishna supreme over any other god or divinity.

i would say that the world faiths fall into two broad categories- one that sees man's spiritual goal as impersonal merging with a greater, abstract Cause or Being (usually through meditation / enlightenment), and one that takes the personal difficulties and joys of man to the feet of a personal divinity, and cries out / praises with an emotive voice. one sees God as a goal to be attained / realized, the other sees Him as Someone to be communed with.

there are many, many ways to imagine God. many ways to adhere to the belief that all faiths say the same thing / lead to the same place. and many ways that will claim to bring one closer to God, whether through contemplation or worshipful acts / good deeds.

yet i know of One unique Person who can bring one to the place where one walks with God, and knows Him. Christilogically, He is the only Teacher who is truly One with the Living God, who knows God and is from God, who teaches a Way that is so, so simple, that it never would have occured to me in a million years. and He teaches not through a bok or list of concepts, but with His life. He is the Way, the Truth, the Life, the Gate.

it's quite honestly, a narrow door. and not all will / do enter in.

from a universalist perspective, if a faith makes exclusive claims, it can not be the one true faith. from a pantheistic perspective, God is "Something", and knowable to all- just look around, and comprehnd that He is here, all around, and within you, too. yet Biblically, God is known as Someone. Someone who can be known, walked with, fully loved, and enjoyed not through human understanding, but through His unique Son.

even a Baha'i will get around to "talking about Baha'u'llah" with a Muslim, Christian, Hindu, or Jew. universalism with which everyone is comfortable does not neccesarily mean "truth" in its fullest and deepest sense.

 

[Prominence]

" I AM, therefore I AM the I AM. I AM the I AM, therefore I AM that I AM. I AM that I AM, thereby I AM a Child of the I AM and I AM Always with the 'Father'."-B.R.B.

All true Religions revolve around the I AM. TurkyOnRye, like many of the world Religions is Just Beating around the Burning Bush.

Religion is Supposed to mean Union by the way. The True Union is through your acknowledment of Existence, Your "I AM" statement of Vibration. It is in all life and therefore All are in fact ONE, Personality begins with programming of the physical structure. The "Kingdom" is within you and so is the Truth.