Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It started with black people for the billionth time.
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What is "woke" in 2024
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Nope.
amorphous_constellation
Well-Known Member
Your first sentence, and the next few words of the next sentence, are optimistic, but it's really at the crux of what I wonder about with this. It should be answered with some level of detail, how it will happen, because I don't know if simply saying 'organically' is the greatest explanation.. Life is getting more expensive, and that means that even established people here struggle to really own anything. The truth of it is, is that it seems like heavy influxes of immigrants can be a way of maintaining a situation, where the general citizen's ownership of assets is low, and the money they make seem to circulate from them into a richer set of hard asset owners. I am not numbers guy. But that what it seems like
Unless the immigrant has a particularly success business, or skill of some kind, where they get in on the pie. But other than that, the optimistic way to see it, would be to hope they can really create those jobs that you say would be generated. Which is beyond my ability to really see how that might occur, they would have to be things that are maybe not based on necessity in the modern economy, but still allow for growth and circulation.. I don't know, I can't compute what that would mean at this time
As long as gdp keeps expanding, my sense of it is that novelty in work has to expand. It seems like new projects have to be generated that will continuously employ a lot of people
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ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) originally meaning alertness to racial prejudice and discrimination.[1]
Woke - Wikipedia
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Edited by JJMC89 bot III at the time of this posting. A great Metalhead connoisseur!Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) originally meaning alertness to racial prejudice and discrimination.[1]
Woke - Wikipedia
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ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
So you're just going to ignore the fact that you are demonstrably wrong?
Arnaud1221
Red-hood
I would need to watch the TV and see what they mean by that.
In orthography, it must mean been wake up on reality. That's my guess.
In orthography, it must mean been wake up on reality. That's my guess.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Nope because the word itself in the African American Vernacular lexicon only meant aware or conscious.
Not the bastardization we see in its modern usage.
Origin Of The Word WOKE, And Why It’s Now Controversial
In recent years, the term "woke" has become a ubiquitous part of the cultural and political lexicon, often evoking strong reactions and sparking heated
scientificorigin.com
Are you trying to twist it's original meaning?
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
So you now acknowledge that you were wrong and the use of the word DID start with AAV language?
Incidentally, who do you think is twisting it? Because if you admit it originally meant "aware or conscious" then that means anyone who uses the term as a pejorative slur are the ones twisting it, no?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No. I am not wrong. It's you who is twisting the term around. Maybe fess up with your ignorance of its etymology.
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ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Yes you are. You said the term "started with the 'Social Justice Warrior'". You now acknowledge it didn't.
Since I don't use the term (except ironically or when people use it to describe me), obviously that's false.
I was unaware "woke" was an insect. You learn something new every day.
The bastardization that the OP describes, you mean?Nope because the word itself in the African American Vernacular lexicon only meant aware or conscious.
Not the bastardization we see in its modern usage.
Origin Of The Word WOKE, And Why It’s Now Controversial
In recent years, the term "woke" has become a ubiquitous part of the cultural and political lexicon, often evoking strong reactions and sparking heated
Are you trying to twist it's original meaning?
That no one applies to himself?
Indeed. The word has been co-opted by less than healthy groups, and its meaning reversed and distorted.
You are attempting humor, right?
Sigh. I'll assume you're just popping in and haven't skimmed the conversations in this thread.
So to reiterate, let's take just two authors of many: Ibram X Kendi and Robin DiAngelo. They are both best selling authors and they both do speaking tours. At least hundreds of thousands (if not millions), of people have bought their books and gone to see them speak. One of Kendi's books has around 28,000 reviews on Amazon with a 4.5 star rating.
Again, there are many other influential people supporting the ideas in the OP, but if we just focus on these two, how do you square their success with the idea that no one believes in the ideas listed in the OP ?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No. The real meaning was aware and conscious.
Completely off track on what people put it as being today.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
OH yes there is.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Its spell /word checks fault , but I corrected the insect part. ;0)
LadyJane
Member
Last time you brought this up you mentioned never reading White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo. You said you watched a bunch of yootoob videos about it. Have you since read it or are you going on about a book you still haven't read?
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PureX
Veteran Member
You're making this far more complicated than it is.
Regardless of whether a population is growing, shrinking, or stabilized, everyone will be doing what needs done to ensure their continued survival. Or they won't survive. The more people, the more commerce is needed to sustain them. Therefor, more production, more jobs, and more money moving around. Less, people, less commerce is required to sustain them, and so less production, fewer jobs, and less money moving around. But it's ok because everyone is still surviving.
An influx of new people is only problematic if the physical environment cannot sustain them. But if that were the case, they would not come. However, there can be a time lag between the new people showing up and the community expanding it's sustaining commercial enterprise to accommodate them. And this is why the Feds gave Spribgfield Ohio federal aid to help the incoming Haitians and the existing community to survive until the sustaining commercial systems could expand to sustain this new increase in population.
And this was all properly considered and agreeable to all.
Unfortunately, this is the U.S.A., where capitalism is allowed to run amok because it has long ago corrupted everything and everyone it's touched. So a very rich predatory private equity group had begun buying up all the housing in and around Springfield, Ohio to create both an affordable housing shortage and a monopoly on housing that they could use to price gouge the community for every dollar they could get out of them, and all that money left the community, never to return. Leaving the local commercial economy starved, and the people broke, even with the federal aid to the Haitians.
The economic equilibrium of the community was destroyed because predatory capitalists were allowed to pillage it at will. And it's not just Springfield, Ohio. It's all the other towns in Ohio, and in Michigan, and in every other state across the country. Hundreds of billions of dollars are being pillaged from communities all across the country, never to return. Leaving those local economies broke and economically unsustainable.
As a result we are now seeing homeless camps springing up all across the country. And thousands of smaller towns being completely wiped out. Falling to ruin by drugs, crime, poverty, and hopelessness. Predatory capitalism is decimating our country and killing our people, and we remain oblivious to it. And do nothing to stop it. Because we all have been taught to believe that greed is good. That it motivates progress.
The problem was never the influx of new people. That just takes a little time and support for our communities and local economies to expand to accommodate them. The problem is that big piles of money are being assembled and used to pillage the whole country by predatory capital investor groups. And some of you reading this have unwittingly given them your life savings to use to destroy your own communities. While you continue to vote for politicians that turn a blind eye to their criminal behavior.
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PureX
Veteran Member
Hmmm ..., what is 'too much diversity'? What is 'too much equality'? What is 'too much inclusion'?
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