Ebionite
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Humans have always had religion. They tend to frame good and evil in social terms, when the original issue was about security relationships.
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What is wrong if human beings turn to G-d?
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Ebionite
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Speak for yourself. The notion of universal human nature most probably arose from the connection between church and state, it's not based in truth. To err is human.
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
Well nothing violates the laws of nature. God does not supercede nature. Nothing supernatural has happened to this day.
God cannot prevent death. Nor can God make anyone a better person.
So if God were a reality, Earth is outside of things. The universe is a vast void.
It's up to humanity to save humanity.
Where's all the grande purpose and plan? I used to venture for one in my youth, and from time to time. Still nothing!
I already searched!
Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
In what way does the virus or doing good things indicate the truthfulness of any of the various gods>
Sand Dancer
Currently catless
And sometimes people are motivated to do bad things because of belief in a god.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Humanity means "one human race; human beings collectively." We are all humans.
I remember my brother saying he wasn't human once. So, I guess I'll just speak for myself then
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
I did not tell anybody to believe in G-d, if they, deep in their heart and soul want to disbelieve.
Those who are not certain in their disbelief, they could turn to G-d.
Regards
The problem is more how people relate to others who believe differently concerning God, and therefore what is good in their view which centers around their belief in God.
Therefore our relationship with God is dependent on our relationship with the diversity of beliefs in God that does not fit our view of God. God is not our God, God is a universal God.
You still didn't answer... and to be honest, your complete naivety is distressing to me.
Bird123
Well-Known Member
The question remains. Do people reform and do good deeds because they think that would please God and God would then prevent them from getting sick? Are people doing good deeds out of Fear or because it is the right thing to do?
The answer will determine if the lessons have been learned yet.
You are right. There is no harm regardless.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
"You are right. There is no harm regardless. "
Thanks for agreeing that there is no harm.
Regards
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
One could not mention any harms as asked in the OP. Right, please?
Regards
I cannot answer that, because you still have not answered the fundamental questions I asked:
What do you mean "reform yourself." That means changing something you are doing now, and instead doing something else. Well, what are you planning to stop doing, and what are you planning to start doing?
And you have not answered what you mean by "do good deeds." If by that, you mean going around and visiting all your friends to see how they are doing and give them comfort, you will be doing harm, because you will be spreading the virus.
So I ask again: how will you "reform yourself" and "what do you mean by good deeds?"
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
I understand that there are three (maybe more)stages.
- Those who are certain about their disbelief.
- Those who are not certain about their disbelief, but they are not believers.
- Those who believe in G-d but their concept of G-d is incorrect.
Regards
Shad
Veteran Member
That would fall under hope in my view.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
To have hope is a very positive thing and belief in G-d does create hope in the people. Right, please?
Regards
Shad
Veteran Member
Sure I think a lot of people turn to God for hope regardless of my views of religion and God.
Ebionite
Well-Known Member
That's statist doctrine. The term "human" originated from Cicero's homo humanus, which distinguished between Romans and "barbarians", which were anyone who wasn't Roman. In that context it was all about the security relationship with the state. When Rome adopted Christianity as the official religion, that relationship naturally morphed into the Catholic view (Catholic means universal, from katholica"). The etymology of "person" reflects that history, with person/persona being a mask, i.e an appearance or role, rather than the men or women themselves.
Maybe? . . . but may lead to a false sense of good and certainty of belief. Sharp knives cut both ways.