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What is wrong with celebrating birthdays?

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
What's wrong with celebrating being alive?

Absolutely nothing wrong with being alive because God as our Father (Life Giver) wants to grant us with being everlastingly alive.
Although it may seem odd to read at Ecclesiastes 7:1 that ' the day of death is better than the day of birth ', that is because at death we have made a name with both men and with God. So, a good name is better than a birthday celebration. It's that 'good name', not birthdays, that can lead us to everlasting life, living forever.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
The only thing wrong with celebrating birthdays is that it shows you are getting older.

To me, is it really just showing one is getting older, or rather getting nearer to the grim reaper ' enemy death '.
If Adam had Not sinned then Adam would still be physically healthy alive on Earth today.
If we were to ask a 'sinless Adam' how he felt today Adam would respond by saying," I feel perfect !"
So, age was never originally meant to be a barrier, but to enjoy endless life on a paradisical Earth as Eden was.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Absolutely nothing wrong with being alive because God as our Father (Life Giver) wants to grant us with being everlastingly alive.
Although it may seem odd to read at Ecclesiastes 7:1 that ' the day of death is better than the day of birth ', that is because at death we have made a name with both men and with God. So, a good name is better than a birthday celebration. It's that 'good name', not birthdays, that can lead us to everlasting life, living forever.

If there's absolutely nothing wrong with being alive then there's absolutely nothing wrong with celebrating that fact that you've managed to live yet another year. Suggesting that it's somehow 'wrong' to celebrate one's birthday suggests that there's somehow something 'wrong' with celebrating life. Why would anyone be against celebrating life?
 

dianaiad

Well-Known Member
Someone stated that celebrating Birthday is bid'ah (heresy), and they don’t celebrate birthdays. Yes, birthdays can be a bit childish because when people grow up they tend not to celebrate birthdays like they did when they were younger, and early European believers thought that birthdays were pagan rituals. If one were to turn 60 years old that means one went around the sun 60 times, so, what is wrong with celebrating ones 60th turn around the sun, or should I say what is wrong with those people who celebrate their birthdays? Nothing wrong? Or, does this practice have something to do with pride, arrogance, and entitlement?

Not a thing.

Except one thing.

Everybody celebrates birthdays like they were some huge accomplishment for the Birthday Boy (or girl), when in reality, happy birthday wishes should be given to Mom.

I don't care WHAT Mom did after the kid arrived.

"Happy Birthday to you,
to your Mom thanks are due.
Every year is another
year that she gave to you.


When you party today
Mom is smiling away,
thinking of that first birthday
When she was yelling AARRGGGGHHH!!!!!

Do I know what I'm talking about?

You bet I do. I have five kids.
 

meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
Interesting to me that you used the word ' entitlement ' besides pride and arrogance.
I remember in school when it was someone's birthday time, a classmate would gripe that she 'HAD' to buy a gift.
So, on her birthday she wanted her ' entitled ' gift ( tit for tat )
Especially on her milestone birthdays she would throw herself a big party inviting lots of people = lots of gifts.
I found that to be out of harmony with what is taught at Romans 12:10 which mentions that in brotherly love have tender affection for one another. In showing honor to one another take the lead.
So, to me birthday celebrations are ego centered. They put the center of attention on the one having the birthday, or on oneself, rather than putting the Creator first in one's life - Romans 1:25
Happy Birthday!
 

meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
OMG its a birthday tirade argument... I got to go before some jerk or lady intentionally does a peter flip.. maybe even three times... not funny...even a bad paul after new atom and a Nazi doctor with a naked statue of some greek god.. in a birthday suite..
Then they practice sharia law on the girl they made crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Got to go..
Wish you the best...
 

Glaurung

Denizen of Niflheim
I haven't attached any personal significance to my birthdays for quite some time now.

Nonetheless if you have family and friends and want to hold a party then that is quite harmless. Ranting about how everything is pagan is just nothing more than smug killjoy-ism wrapped in a veneer of piety.
 

Cobol

Code Jockey
Someone stated that celebrating Birthday is bid'ah (heresy), and they don’t celebrate birthdays. Yes, birthdays can be a bit childish because when people grow up they tend not to celebrate birthdays like they did when they were younger, and early European believers thought that birthdays were pagan rituals. If one were to turn 60 years old that means one went around the sun 60 times, so, what is wrong with celebrating ones 60th turn around the sun, or should I say what is wrong with those people who celebrate their birthdays? Nothing wrong? Or, does this practice have something to do with pride, arrogance, and entitlement?

Why do we even celebrate them? "Congratulations! You're one year closer to death! Nice job not dying for the past 365 days! Why should someone get presents and praise simply for living? I shouldn't have to go out of my way to call or text people I barely ever talk to, or to simply to tell them that I'm happy that they're not dead yet. The whole subject just pisses me off!
 
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Sammeleh

Member
Someone stated that celebrating Birthday is bid'ah (heresy), and they don’t celebrate birthdays. Yes, birthdays can be a bit childish because when people grow up they tend not to celebrate birthdays like they did when they were younger, and early European believers thought that birthdays were pagan rituals. If one were to turn 60 years old that means one went around the sun 60 times, so, what is wrong with celebrating ones 60th turn around the sun, or should I say what is wrong with those people who celebrate their birthdays? Nothing wrong? Or, does this practice have something to do with pride, arrogance, and entitlement?
Hi.
Someone stated that celebrating Birthday is bid'ah (heresy), and they don’t celebrate birthdays. Yes, birthdays can be a bit childish because when people grow up they tend not to celebrate birthdays like they did when they were younger, and early European believers thought that birthdays were pagan rituals. If one were to turn 60 years old that means one went around the sun 60 times, so, what is wrong with celebrating ones 60th turn around the sun, or should I say what is wrong with those people who celebrate their birthdays? Nothing wrong? Or, does this practice have something to do with pride, arrogance, and entitlement?
Hi. Did the person tell you why he felt it was wrong to celebrate birthdays? I know you said something about Europeans believing the celebration was associated with pagan rituals. Is that what the person told you?
 

Sammeleh

Member
Why do we even celebrate them? "Congratulations! You're one year closer to death! Nice job not dying for the past 365 days! Why should someone get presents and praise simply for living? I shouldn't have to go out of my way to call or text people I barely ever talk to, or to simply to tell them that I'm happy that they're not dead yet. The whole subject just pisses me off!
Wow, interesting answer. I'm impressed. :)
 

Sammeleh

Member
If there's absolutely nothing wrong with being alive then there's absolutely nothing wrong with celebrating that fact that you've managed to live yet another year. Suggesting that it's somehow 'wrong' to celebrate one's birthday suggests that there's somehow something 'wrong' with celebrating life. Why would anyone be against celebrating life?
How does one go about celebrating life on his birthday? Once a year?
 

meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
Birthday celebrations may seem innocent, but are presented unfavorably in the Bible. The two birthdays mentioned were both celebrated by pagan rulers and both resulted in executions of prisoners. Other Bible principles apply to celebrating one's birth, IMO. (Ecclesiastes 7:1) One book on birthdays says the following:
"The Greeks believed that everyone had a protective spirit or daemon who attended his birth and watched over him in life. This spirit had a mystic relation with the god on whose birthday the individual was born. The Romans also subscribed to this idea. . . . This notion was carried down in human belief and is reflected in the guardian angel, the fairy godmother and the patron saint. . . . The custom of lighted candles on the cakes started with the Greeks. . . . Honey cakes round as the moon and lit with tapers were placed on the temple altars of [Artemis]. . . . Birthday candles, in folk belief, are endowed with special magic for granting wishes. . . . Lighted tapers and sacrificial fires have had a special mystic significance ever since man first set up altars to his gods. The birthday candles are thus an honor and tribute to the birthday child and bring good fortune. . . . Birthday greetings and wishes for happiness are an intrinsic part of this holiday. . . . Originally the idea was rooted in magic. . . . Birthday greetings have power for good or ill because one is closer to the spirit world on this day.”—The Lore of Birthdays (New York, 1952), Ralph and Adelin Linton, pp. 8, 18-20." (Quote from RS p. 70)
what ? I know people that don't like it every-time they have a birthday is that because they feel they are getting older? ... or the spirit world isn't happy for them.. anyways
Jehovah witnesses--- support people getting older and more angry because they don't like their birthday over someone who might happen to say happy birthday to them.
what I said is that I don't like it if either or make a sort of peter flip about it through momma daddy and the apocalypse.
Or like necro crap of it.
 

sovietchild

Well-Known Member
Hi.

Hi. Did the person tell you why he felt it was wrong to celebrate birthdays? I know you said something about Europeans believing the celebration was associated with pagan rituals. Is that what the person told you?

No and No, because I read it from the article that I can't find any more, it says early Christians didn't celebrate birthdays because of pagan roots.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
If there's absolutely nothing wrong with being alive then there's absolutely nothing wrong with celebrating that fact that you've managed to live yet another year. Suggesting that it's somehow 'wrong' to celebrate one's birthday suggests that there's somehow something 'wrong' with celebrating life. Why would anyone be against celebrating life?

Jesus, who did Not celebrate birthdays, absolutely celebrated life by giving his life as a ransom price for us according to Matthew 20:28. Jesus' first miracle was turning water into wine at a joyous wedding celebration.
So, although those Jews did Not celebrate birthdays, they definitely celebrated life.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Hi.
Hi. Did the person tell you why he felt it was wrong to celebrate birthdays? I know you said something about Europeans believing the celebration was associated with pagan rituals. Is that what the person told you?

To me it seems likely those Europeans connected such celebrating with pagan rituals because of history.
Both secular and biblical history.

I found a quote from a Dr. John C. McCollister saying that the 'Christians did Not even celebrate the Lord's birthday because all birthdays was a custom of the pagans'.
Idolatrous rites were performed in honor of the patron gods particular birthdays, such as the mythical gods like Saturn and Apollo.

Two Bible references mention Pharaoh of Egypt and Herod Antipas where both birthdays were marked with great feasting and granting of favors, and both are remembered because of 'executions'.
Pharaoh's chief baker was hung, and John the baptizer was beheaded according to Genesis 40:18-22; Genesis 41:13; Matthew 14:6-11; Mark 6:21-28.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Jesus, who did Not celebrate birthdays, absolutely celebrated life by giving his life as a ransom price for us according to Matthew 20:28. Jesus' first miracle was turning water into wine at a joyous wedding celebration.
So, although those Jews did Not celebrate birthdays, they definitely celebrated life.

Gee, did I ever claim that celebrating birthdays was the ONLY way a person can celebrate life? Of COURSE not! How does anything you wrote change the fact that a birthday celebration is nothing more than a celebration of life? What do you have against celebrating life by celebrating birthdays? It's nothing more than a way for people to find additional joy in their lives. Why are you so against people finding additional joy in their lives? Please answer these questions directly, instead of dancing around them like you tend to do.
 
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