What is Wrong With Jews Who Repeatedly Post the Most Hateful Propaganda Towards Muslims?

[Desert Snake]

This seems to me to be an absurd and false narrative. My personal observation is, most Jews tend to just keep to themselves. They are a quiet community, and spend their time looking over their business, family, and rarely attack anyone or get heavy into politics.

Well, I am talking about Jews who actially identify with the Jewish religion. I am not talking about liberal Jews who identify with Karl Marx and stuff like that and do not have anything to do with "Jewishness" unless they want to use victimhood as a political chess game to suppress free speech and establish a Maduro like regime that also happens to line their pockets with coins. You know, the Trump haters. Not the real Jews but those commie types who are about as much a Jew as I am which is I am not. They make me sick. Me and my friends have been backstabbed too many times by liberal jews to ever trust them. Not that their backstabbing ever got them anything. I hasn't.

This seems abstract. Liberal jews still identify as Jews, so its merely a different perspective. It wouldnt make them less Jewish.

 

[icehorse]

Having been on the web for years, it sickening to see so many articles, statements, made by Jews against Muslims being evil as such, and then wonder why there are backlashes in the world.

Just to make sure you have a solid foundation, remember that Muslims outnumber Jews 100:1

 

[wizanda]

look for debates that Christopher Hitchens or Sam Harris are in and you will begin to realize exactly what Islam is.

Watched many of them already, and aware of many sides of the conflict; which is why say put down the rocks, as next will be nuclear bombs, and then we're all going to suffer.

Just to make sure you have a solid foundation, remember that Muslims outnumber Jews 100:1

Well since wasn't saying Muslims are not guilty of the same; it is quite a solid foundation... Lets not have WW3 by insighting more hate.

People wanting to create hate towards an individual or group, rather than to understand their actions, and reasoning behind it, are missing the bigger picture in someway.

 

[icehorse]

People wanting to create hate towards an individual or group, rather than to understand their actions, and reasoning behind it, are missing the bigger picture in someway.

Am I inferring correctly that you're seeing a sort of two-way equivalency here?

 

[wizanda]

Am I inferring correctly that you're seeing a sort of two-way equivalency here?

Hate towards a group of people or individual is the same regardless of the additional criteria...

We should hate the bad actions, so we all learn to become better; rather than more hateful towards people.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

No, that would be XLIV.

Oops! You're right.

 

[icehorse]

Hate towards a group of people or individual is the same regardless of the additional criteria...

We should hate the bad actions, so we all learn to become better; rather than more hateful towards people.

Although possible, it's REALLY HARD to turn the other cheek when it comes to people who want to commit genocide against you. (And for you pro-Palestinians, no, Israel is NOT perpetrating genocide.)

 

[wizanda]

when it comes to people who want to commit genocide against you.

In which case, if we're sharing things that cause scaremongering, it is doing no good for trying to build bridges, instead of walls...

We never solve conflict by increasing it.

 

[icehorse]

In which case, if we're sharing things that cause scaremongering, it is doing no good for trying to build bridges, instead of walls...

We never solve conflict by increasing it.

Have you looked at Hamas's charter recently? We also never solve conflict by pretending it isn't as bad as it is.

 

[Flankerl]

No i didn't, you were the one citing attacks on synagogue's, i was citing attacks on innocents by Israel

And why was your answer to attacks on synagogues to pull Israel into the matter?
Is it that difficult to answer such a simple question?

I feel like a dentist who has to pull a long teeth while the patient is dancing through the office.

 

[ChristineM]

And why was your answer to attacks on synagogues to pull Israel into the matter?
Is it that difficult to answer such a simple question?

I feel like a dentist who has to pull a long teeth while the patient is dancing through the office.

Read the op.

 

[Flankerl]

Read the op.

The state of Israel is not mentioned.

You are still running away.

 

[ChristineM]

The state of Israel is not mentioned.

You are still running away.

How many times? The state of Israel is a Jewish state metering out (documented) atrocities on muslims. Do you honestly think that they are going to roll over and accept it. Such atrocities breed terrorism, terrorism has no borders.

Is that in simple enough language or are you playing silly buggers just to raise an argument?

 

[icehorse]

How many times? The state of Israel is a Jewish state metering out (documented) atrocities on muslims. Do you honestly think that they are going to roll over and accept it. Such atrocities breed terrorism, terrorism has no borders.

Is that in simple enough language or are you playing silly buggers just to raise an argument?

The Palestinians declared war on Israel, not the other way around. You don't get to declare war and then complain about casualties.

 

[ChristineM]

The Palestinians declared war on Israel, not the other way around. You don't get to declare war and then complain about casualties.

Was this the 1944 jewish insurgence in Palestine

Or the 1948 Israeli declaration of independence

Israel fired the first shot (surprise attack) in the 6 day war

Or the mass land grab followed by blocking medical and humanitarian supplies

Palestine has accepted the 2 state solution since 1970, Israel hasn't, they want more land

In fact i can find no reference to your claim dating back to the late 1800s when the conflicts first began so please be good enough to provide citation that the Palestinians declared war on Israel

 

[Flankerl]

How many times? The state of Israel is a Jewish state metering out (documented) atrocities on muslims. Do you honestly think that they are going to roll over and accept it. Such atrocities breed terrorism, terrorism has no borders.

Is that in simple enough language or are you playing silly buggers just to raise an argument?

So the members of the Synagogue in Salzburg committed atrocities on Muslims?

When was that?

When did the members of the AMIA raise their hand against Muslims?


The fact stands that I merely cited attacks on Synagogues which are in no way related to the State of Israel and its actions.
Your answer was to list acts by the State of Israel.

And you don't even see a problem with that.
Should I keep that in mind if I ever decide to open fire on people of another Religion who haven't done anything wrong?

 

[icehorse]

1 - Israel fired the first shot (surprise attack) in the 6 day war

2 - Or the mass land grab followed by blocking medical and humanitarian supplies

3 - Palestine has accepted the 2 state solution since 1970, Israel hasn't, they want more land

1 - Most historians agree that in practice the Arabs started the 6 day war.
2 - Jordan and Egypt are as guilty of blockades as Israel.
3 - In 1988 the Hamas charter was created and in 2006 Palestinians voted Hamas into power. This seems like a declaration of war to me.

In 2005 Israel gave the Gaza strip to the Palestinians and the Palestinians did not change their charter, nor have they stopped attacking Israel.

 

[rosends]

Was this the 1944 jewish insurgence in Palestine

Or the 1948 Israeli declaration of independence

Israel fired the first shot (surprise attack) in the 6 day war

Or the mass land grab followed by blocking medical and humanitarian supplies

Palestine has accepted the 2 state solution since 1970, Israel hasn't, they want more land

In fact i can find no reference to your claim dating back to the late 1800s when the conflicts first began so please be good enough to provide citation that the Palestinians declared war on Israel

Actually, it dates back hundreds of years (the Hebron massacre of 1929, Caliph Al- Hakim's expulsion of the Jews from Jerusalem in the 10th century, the destruction of the Nachmanides synagogue in 1474 and the heavy taxes imposed on Jews by the mamluks in 1440, the treatment of Jews by Muslims according to Kabtanik's "Journey to Jerusalem", the expulsion from Safed in 1576, Muhammed Ibn Farkoh's behavior towards the Jews in 1625 just as a start)

As for the 6 day war, whether the closing of the Straits of Tiran was a cassus belli for a shooting war or whether it was simply one variable in moves of aggression can be debated, but the stated interest of the surrounding Arab nations was clear, "President Abdul Rahman Arif of Iraq said that "the existence of Israel is an error which must be rectified. This is an opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948".[183] The Iraqi Prime Minister predicted that "there will be practically no Jewish survivors"."

It is strange to claim that "Palestine" has accepted a 2 state solution since 1970 since Palestine doesn't exist as a sovereign nation and the leadership of the "Palestinian" people has flatly denied the existence of any Jewish state and still champions a singular "greater Palestine" in which there is no Israel. Just look at the map on "Palestinian" insignias -- it is the entire of the state of Israel, not subdivided, presented as "palestine." No 2 states.

But this is politics and not religion.

 

[Eliab ben Benjamin]

Was this the 1944 jewish insurgence in Palestine

Or the 1948 Israeli declaration of independence

Israel fired the first shot (surprise attack) in the 6 day war

Or the mass land grab followed by blocking medical and humanitarian supplies

Palestine has accepted the 2 state solution since 1970, Israel hasn't, they want more land

In fact i can find no reference to your claim dating back to the late 1800s when the conflicts first began so please be good enough to provide citation that the Palestinians declared war on Israel

THE COVENANT OF THE HAMAS - MAIN POINTS

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The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August

18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS,

is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the

territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive

manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the

basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad

(Islamic Holy War). The following are excerpts of the HAMAS

Covenant:



Goals of the HAMAS:

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'The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian

movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is

Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of

Palestine.' (Article 6)



On the Destruction of Israel:

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'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will

obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble)

 

[ChristineM]

So the members of the Synagogue in Salzburg committed atrocities on Muslims?

When was that?

When did the members of the AMIA raise their hand against Muslims?


The fact stands that I merely cited attacks on Synagogues which are in no way related to the State of Israel and its actions.
Your answer was to list acts by the State of Israel.

And you don't even see a problem with that.
Should I keep that in mind if I ever decide to open fire on people of another Religion who haven't done anything wrong?

If you can't read that's not my problem. How many times before it sinks in? Terrorism has no border's