The whole thing is so unbalanced it is ridiculous, and most are unaware of all the angles.... Especially if they take sides.
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What is Wrong With Jews Who Repeatedly Post the Most Hateful Propaganda Towards Muslims?
- Thread starter wizanda
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On that much we agree.The whole thing is so unbalanced it is ridiculous, and most are unaware of all the angles.... Especially if they take sides.
Hardly. You just have a pattern of building false equivalencies and that ended up hurting your credibility.
At this point I do not even bother whether you see my point. It is too much to ask, or at the very least there are a lot of signs that point that way.
You are very welcome to show evidence to support your case, in any stance. But I personally will not presume a balanced view from you as a starting point.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
This statement is ludicrous. Hitler did it with absolute lies. He didn't point to only things that Jews had actually done in the past.
You have your opinion.
I have mine.
We should all accept that others will have very different perspectives,
& that it shouldn't descend into personal animus or criticism.
RF even has a rule about that somewhere.
I see & accept points you make.
But I sometimes disagree.
I will not be naming posters.
You should know better.
I have learned better. That is what I just said.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
You know, @wizanda
If you wrote several articles about different aspects of the Qur'an interpreted from your, often bizarre, stance and placed those topics for Muslims to discuss your "ideas" about what the Qur'an really means, you might quickly change your tune about this alleged persecution of Muslims/Islam.
My guess is that this is an extension of your own persecution complex, where the vast majority simply do not buy into your peculiar ideas, and so you project that onto this imagined arena as if it were an existing reality.
If you wrote several articles about different aspects of the Qur'an interpreted from your, often bizarre, stance and placed those topics for Muslims to discuss your "ideas" about what the Qur'an really means, you might quickly change your tune about this alleged persecution of Muslims/Islam.
My guess is that this is an extension of your own persecution complex, where the vast majority simply do not buy into your peculiar ideas, and so you project that onto this imagined arena as if it were an existing reality.
To clarify, if I offer a specific poster as an example of wrongful behavior,
this would be calling out, which is against the rules. If you intend to
wring some kind of victory from this, then I scoff in your general direction.
I expect staff to be better able to stick to issues, & avoid negative personalizing.
Not sure how we can say it is not the same, if Muslims protest these extremists are not following Islam, and the media purposely drives an agenda even accusing Muslims before there is even evidence.
I've spent the last 13 years dialoguing with all religions, that has been my main purpose in life since birth...
This is said from years of experience with all sides, and questioning human psychology...
Regardless of how annoying Muslims are in 'arguments' sometimes; when treated as a human instead of an animal, we get a much better response.
We should be building bridges instead of walls, and it takes the same amount of bricks to build both.
Don't have a persecution complex, maybe go back to my Journal thread, and discuss it there, if that was your finding from what i was saying.
Also that you see it needing to attach to my ego in someway, lets me know how you think; this has nothing to do with me personally, other than defending against what could be classed as repeated bullying.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
I was merely pointing out that your claim about Hitler was patently false and a bit nauseating.
Athena Plato
"Who do you say I am?"
Having been on the web for years, it sickening to see so many articles, statements, made by Jews against Muslims being evil as such, and then wonder why there are backlashes in the world.
Do the Jews not recognize WW3 will happen, and it will be a religious war, that they as well as the other religious groups are going to instigate, through their hatred of each other?
Isn't it the more Godly thing to do, to try and find reason for unity, to try and resolve differences, to come to a greater understanding, not pick up on every bit of media driven propaganda to make the situation worse?
Now considering Jews are taught that they should be turning everyone to Godliness, so that everyone may know God in the time to come; how can creating animosity be in that right direction?
“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather Her brood under Her wings, and ye would not! † Behold, your house is left unto you desolate : and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is He and She that cometh in the name of the Lord and of the Lady.”
“Thus saith the Lord GOD; This is Jerusalem : (‘Measure of the Promised Land’) † I have set it in the midst of the nations and countries that are round about Her. And She hath changed my judgments into wickedness more than the nations, and my statutes more than the countries that are round about Her : Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, am against thee, and will execute judgments in the midst of thee in the sight of the nations.
“Thou art an offence to me : for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of Men.” † She Worships Nuclear Weapons, Walls and War. Waits for Her Messiah. Refuses Christ. Unholy Religious Laws. Gender Segregation. Clothing, Singing, Prayer Restrictions on my Temple Mount. Treats my Daughters like Dogs and Second Class Citizens.
This is Faithfulness, Forgiveness, Love, Peace, Prosperity and Wisdom? Measure of God’s Promised Land?
What’s wrong with Jews who post Hateful Propaganda? Why do women have to sit in the back of the bus in some parts of Jerusalem? Why do some Jewish Men spit on women walking in the streets? Or why do these Holy Men throw chairs and insults at women for wearing certain clothing or singing in God’s Temple Mount?
If we asked God, She would said it’s the Ignorance of Jewish Men and Rabbis. They have no idea who they are or were. God planted an Olive Tree in the Promised Land over 2,000 years ago (placing a carrot in front of a donkey), and Jesus Christ forgave their Ignorance on the cross. They still do not have a clue who God is and who they once were.
“Wisdom is the principle thing; therefore get Wisdom : and with all thy getting get understanding. Exalt Her, and She shall promote thee : She shall bring thee to Honour, when thou dost embrace Her. She shall give to thine head an Ornament of Grace : a Crown of Glory shall She deliver to thee.” †
God’s Lost Lambs used to be : the most forgiving, loving, loyal, trustworthy, peaceful, and wise Tribe on Earth (if we interpreted Scripture properly we would know that and so would they), But instead as a result of this mistranslation, the Jews are still searching for the Promised Land. Many, blame the fact that they cannot find it, on their neighbors, the Muslims.
“I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. And the Spirit and the Bride say, Come.”
Will they ever find it? God only knows. I doubt it.
(King James Annotations † Proverbs 4:7,8,9 † Ezekiel 5:5,6,8 † Matthew 16:23 † Luke 1:42,13:34,35 † Revelation 22:13.)
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YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
In all fairness, @wizanda we should be attempting to eradicate insanity not attempting to bridge the gulf between reason and insanity.Not sure how we can say it is not the same, if Muslims protest these extremists are not following Islam, and the media purposely drives an agenda even accusing Muslims before there is even evidence.
I've spent the last 13 years dialoguing with all religions, that has been my main purpose in life since birth...
This is said from years of experience with all sides, and questioning human psychology...
Regardless of how annoying Muslims are in 'arguments' sometimes; when treated as a human instead of an animal, we get a much better response.
We should be building bridges instead of walls, and it takes the same amount of bricks to build both.
Don't have a persecution complex, maybe go back to my Journal thread, and discuss it there, if that was your finding from what i was saying.
Also that you see it needing to attach to my ego in someway, lets me know how you think; this has nothing to do with me personally, other than defending against what could be classed as repeated bullying.
sovietchild
Well-Known Member
What is Wrong With Jews Who Repeatedly Post the Most Hateful Propaganda Towards Muslims?
Well, I'll add my 2 cents. Maybe, they're afraid and they're seeking for some buddy to protect them. Paranoia? Thinking everyone is their enemy. But then again, is everybody really their enemy?
Well, I'll add my 2 cents. Maybe, they're afraid and they're seeking for some buddy to protect them. Paranoia? Thinking everyone is their enemy. But then again, is everybody really their enemy?
Exactly, from the position you're viewing everything from, this is your perspective; yet with a vast amount of research into actual political conspiracies, false flags, and false media, then your opinion might be more open minded to the similarities.
Again taking sides isn't that helpful... The whole aspect of Jewish character isn't the question, as not all Jews post things that insight hate.
We're all in a giant mental asylum (Maya), that is the whole point in a lot of the religious texts...
Therefore the only solution has ever been to slowly build bridges from Heaven to down here near Hell; personally see that everyone enlightening was sent.....
Otherwise people would just be insane, and have far less reasoning.
Your statement is worrying: so are you saying we should eradicate all the religious who don't think logically according to you?
Be a great diplomat, "well they're being insane, lets just eradicate the lot."
How does someone become not insane? What do they need to learn to overcome it? Reasoning!
This is why we go see psychiatrists, councilors, to help analyze, and fix our own reasoning.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
OMG, you are so missing the point. I wasn't even speaking to similarities.
You said that Hitler convinced people to hate the Jews by pointing to things they had done throughout history. That is patently false. He made up lies about the Jews.
Not everything was lies, my Grandad was brought up in Lviv...
There was large opposition existing because of wealth accumulation by the Jews anyway...
All Hitler had to do, was put a match to a dry haystack...
Plus it was manipulation of the media, to over emphasize what people already thought; just the same as western media does about Muslims.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Holy strawman, Batman!We're all in a giant mental asylum (Maya), that is the whole point in a lot of the religious texts...
Therefore the only solution has ever been to slowly build bridges from Heaven to down here near Hell; personally see that everyone enlightening was sent.....
Otherwise people would just be insane, and have far less reasoning.
Your statement is worrying: so are you saying we should eradicate all the religious who don't think logically according to you?
Be a great diplomat, "well they're being insane, lets just eradicate the lot."
How does someone become not insane? What do they need to learn to overcome it? Reasoning!
This is why we go see psychiatrists, councilors, to help analyze, and fix our own reasoning.
This is a perfect example of how you misconstrue and then project. Thanks for making it so abundantly obvious.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
You can literally listen to speeches from Goebbels filled with lies. Der Stürmer, a Nazi propaganda newspaper, told Germans that Jews kidnapped small children before Passover because "Jews need the blood of a Christian child, maybe, to mix in with their Matzah." (from Propaganda in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia)Not everything was lies, my Grandad was brought up in Lviv...
There was large opposition existing because of wealth accumulation by the Jews anyway...
All Hitler had to do, was put a match to a dry haystack...
Plus it was manipulation of the media, to over emphasize what people already thought; just the same as western media does about Muslims.
Having been on the web for years, it sickening to see so many articles, statements, made by Jews against Muslims being evil as such, and then wonder why there are backlashes in the world.
Do the Jews not recognize WW3 will happen, and it will be a religious war, that they as well as the other religious groups are going to instigate, through their hatred of each other?
Isn't it the more Godly thing to do, to try and find reason for unity, to try and resolve differences, to come to a greater understanding, not pick up on every bit of media driven propaganda to make the situation worse?
Now considering Jews are taught that they should be turning everyone to Godliness, so that everyone may know God in the time to come; how can creating animosity be in that right direction?
Seems to me the Abrahamic religions are a source of conflict by design. In order to work/live together they already have to marginalize parts of their religious ideology.
All ideologies have to be freely open to criticism. However when the criticisms become personal the discussion is no longer useful.
A problem is that criticizing a religion is to dispute someone's
inerrant truth, thereby attacking reality & all that is good.
What religion isn't vulnerable to such a dangerous inference?