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What is Wrong With Jews Who Repeatedly Post the Most Hateful Propaganda Towards Muslims?

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
The people in my synagogue are all American. That must make the building American, otherwise it would be empty.

Seriously -- learn the difference between a country and a religion.


My bad, I apologise. In mitigation, i do not usually drink for two reasons, last night was one, the second is my hangover this morning.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
So that's the only reason you are in this thread? Neat.

But let's all remember that attacking a Synagogue is bad, BUT both sides do bad stuff. As in Argentinian Jews attacked the Muslims. When? I don't know but apparently they did.

What a fun world view.
The only reason of this thread why some Jews post hatefull msgs against Muslims.as you did always.

For my experience in RF,we do know for sure that your humantarians is depend/baised to your race/religions "Judaism" .

Don't you get my point about "both sides did crimes " ?
Don't you remember any attack against Muslim done by Jews ?
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
So I only involved myself in this thread once, to ask for proof.

Since then I went through it all by page and wow. I can't say I've ever seen such filth on RF as this. I know I've posted some nonsense on RF in my time, but this just took it to a level unprecedented. It's frankly embarrassing that this forum has been brought to this low of discussion, bigotry and prejudice. One would like to think that civilised people would have given up on this after the horrors of the Second World War, but here we see the return of Mediaeval superstition and plain degradation.

For shame.
 
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wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
One would like to think that civilised people would have given up on this after the horrors of the Second World War, but here we see the return of Mediaeval superstition and plain degradation.
Muslims are being made into a scapegoat by western media, and that doesn't bother you that millions of people are being displaced, and persecuted?...

Which is just the same as Hitler did with the Jews, by making up false media.

Yet the thread is disgusting for questioning the inequality, and hypocrisy we're seeing. :eek:
bigotry and prejudice.
If that even slightly refers to me, then you've got no clue where I'm coming from; I've spent my whole life studying everyone's religions, to help them before the Tribulation. :innocent:
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
Muslims are being made into a scapegoat by western media, and that doesn't bother you that millions of people are being displaced, and persecuted?...

Which is just the same as Hitler did with the Jews, by making up false media.

Yet the thread is disgusting for questioning the inequality, and hypocrisy we're seeing. :eek:
Oh, you mean like scapegoating Jews by saying they might have made blood libels, put families out of business, saying they want the goyim for their slaves and generally lending credit to Hitler's ideology? You mean scapegoating like that?

Yeah I really see where you're coming from.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
you mean like scapegoating Jews by saying they might have made blood libels
Not scapegoating anyone, talk about comprehension issues from having such biases.

Across Europe there are many cases of the Jews being accused, and charged for Blood libel... I've stated i don't know, and will not make a judgement based on conjecture a thousand years after.

The point was, that Hitler didn't make up a lot of the things being stated, they were already believed by a large part of the population surrounding the Pale settlement; which is where my family is virtually from....

So you do get I'm talking about my own family, my own history, and you're busy calling me names for being against myself. :oops:
put families out of business
This is based on hearing it from my own grandad, who watched the animosity build; these are facts that happened, which gave Hitlers propaganda an element of truth, that people only needed a bit of a push to respond to.
saying they want the goyim for their slaves
Before calling other people bigoted, go learn about the religion you've sign up for; watch the differences between secular, and orthodox opinion on Goyim being slaves in the time to come, there are many more videos on Youtube, to be methodical in researching what people actually believe.
generally lending credit to Hitler's ideology?
See as saying to begin, Hitler over emphasized what the Jews had done....

Fair enough should have maybe included a subclause, that some of these statements were completely fabricated, like the setting fire to the haystack; yet thought most people would realize that was being said, as was stating about false media about Muslims as well....

Never said i agree with it, it is just clear only people who are taking one side, are seeing it in that perspective.
Yeah I really see where you're coming from.
Your attitude towards me trying to help, and lack of responses; shows someone blinded by hate. :innocent:
 
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Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
Not scapegoating anyone, talk about comprehension issues from having such biases.

Across Europe there are many cases of the Jews being accused, and charged for Blood libel... I've stated i don't know, and will not make a judgement based on conjecture a thousand years after.

The point was, that Hitler didn't make up a lot of the things being stated, they were already believed by a large part of the population surrounding the Pale settlement, which is where my family is virtually from....

So you do get I'm talking about my own family, my own history, and you're busy calling me names for being against myself. :oops:

Just because a lot of people believe something it doesn't make it true, as you well know, and your family's experience is just one experience. I'm not demanding proof of your family's experience. I'm demanding proof of your original OP. Saying that the Jewish blood libel myth 'might be true' is hardly proof.

This is based on hearing it from my own grandad, who watched the animosity build; these are facts that happened, which gave Hitlers propaganda an element of truth, that people only needed a bit of a push to respond to.
An element of truth doesn't make it the whole truth.

Before calling other people bigoted, go learn about the religion you've sign up for; watch the differences between secular, and orthodox opinion on Goyim being slaves in the time to come, there are many more videos on Youtube, to be methodical in researching what people actually believe.

I have researched it. As usual, these are just anti-Semitic myths. You are just using them to prop up your arguments and covert anti-Semitism. Shame on you, Wizanda.

Your attitude towards me trying to help, and lack of responses; shows someone blinded by hate. :innocent:

No, it's an attitude of not putting up with any anti-Semitism. Of not letting you get away with 'Jewish blood libel might be true' and 'The Jews want to enslave all the goyim'. I don't give a damn about your family experience. Anti-Semitism is anti-Semitism and I won't overlook it.
 
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LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
The only reason of this thread why some Jews post hatefull msgs against Muslims.as you did always.

For my experience in RF,we do know for sure that your humantarians is depend/baised to your race/religions "Judaism" .

Don't you get my point about "both sides did crimes " ?
Don't you remember any attack against Muslim done by Jews ?
We would need some sort of evidence, some solid indication that such is the case.

Without that, it is just particularly damaging, particularly malicious defamation. All the more so because it sabotages the wake up calls that warn against the dangers of unchallenged Islaam.

And I am so sorry, @Godobeyer , but is has become increasingly difficult to find reasons not to challenge Islaam's ideology often and fiercely.

It is simply not responsible to refuse to.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Understood -- I usually have more reasons to drink than not to drink ;)


I usually prefer life unsullied by toxins, i will sometimes take a glass over the mid winter holiday, for the toast, rememberence at weddings and funerals etc.

Yesterday was a friends funereal.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Nah he's a Jew so he's lying. Don't believe him.

But then again I am a Jew so I am also lying.

I am automatically entitled to German citizenship. Thus I am German? Oh wait I am not.

So you think blood libels are real. Good to know.

You lie? How sad

What? Didn't think Germany had a law of return.

I did not comment on blood libels. But feel free to make sh** up if it makes you feel better.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
Absolutely nothing to do with the topic, the topic is not which side is right, and the fact you're even presenting that argument sickens me.

"Blessed are the peacemakers", and if we're siding with warmongers in someway, then clearly we don't comprehend this in all meanings.

If it is sickening you take some medicine from God. Count the times God sent Israel into battle against their enemies. Sometimes to destroy them completely.

Islam was a continuation of Hebraic customs, until people kept making animosity over the last thousand five hundred years; which has made it become worse, not better.

Islam is not a continuation of anything, let alone of Hebrew customs. It was originated by Esau, a wild donkey of a man who despised his birthright, which being the first born would have made his the spiritual leader of his tribe.

The point of the thread, is why add coal to a fire, where it will wipe out the whole of mankind?

Military strength and the willingness to use it is the best deterrent for war we have. If we don't defend ourselves, the situation gets worse.

Because generally you seem to have done a vast amount of study into Islam to dismantle it, and since you seem opposed to it in its modern form as well...

I have never tried to dismantle any religion. Rejecting a religion does not indicated trying to dismantle. IMO, false religions should be dismantled but not by man. That is Gods doing if it gets done.

Then maybe because you're also involved in the threads condemning Islam as a whole; you're not noticing the psychological affects that causes to a group of people, who already feel cornered by many?

Guess again. I do not condemn Islam but I do condemn those who disregard the teaching of their religion and kill innocent people. If you don't condemn the killing of the innocent there is something wrong with your theology. If you are putting all of the blame on Israel, which you seem to be doing, you are condemning their religion.

Fair enough don't get me wrong, I'm not promoting some of the things Islam has done as not being evil; yet lets stop bullying just one of the religions, like if there was no Islam, we'd have world peace.

Condemning Isis is not bulling Islam. They are not practicing the teachings of what they claim is their religion. The need to be condemned and destroyed. While you are not promoting their actions, I haven't seen you condemn them yet.

The Muslim threads are often challenging theological concepts, which is perfectly acceptable in the setting; it is a religious debate forum.

since I am not interested in Islam, I have NEVER been in that thread.

Pointing out that Muslims are savages, and not capable of rational behavior, actually causes them to become more challenging...

Do you have a source for that statement or is it just another of your opinions?

The other is what we see in the world, whilst everyone is telling someone they're not capable of being civilized, and are terrorist, this causes that reaction...

Some of the most violent serial killers, and extremist in history, is because people criticized them a lot.

Do you have a source for that statement or is it just another of your opinions?


Didn't say all Jews, didn't categorize a whole group of people, said those who choose that path, and can show Jewish websites, posts, and individuals who are responsible for causing more hatred.

When you just referred to Jews in general, you certainly were holding them all responsible, and I have yet to see you condemn the Palestinians in any way, You need to go back land see who cast the first stone.

The idea you think i missed the point, and don't actually recognize the extent this is taking place, horrifies me.

I horrify a lot of people who don't have a Biblical theology.

Thank you for being in the middle as well, when we don't take sides, it is easy to see both sides contributing to the issues. :innocent:

I am not in the middle. It should be obvious that I take Israel's side. If you go back to when the UN allowed Israel to return to THEIR LAND, the Muslims have been trying to destroy them and one problem keeping the fighting going is their Muslims refusal to allow Israel to exist as a nation.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I didnt mean that in the sense of being like people in germany, but ethnic attributes, etc. The statement I answered didnt make sense, so my answer isnt going to make sense¥


My post referred to the law of return, which makes no limit on where a person is born, if they can show recent Jewish ancestry then (baring some cop outs (convicted murderer, terrorist etc)) then anyone can get Israeli citizenship.

It may not make sense to you but it is a valid and active Israeli statute.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Saying that the Jewish blood libel myth 'might be true' is hardly proof.
Wow, again implanting words to make a false case; have stated in the thread, that i don't accept a bool answer (true, false, null), i keep it as a variable.
I'm demanding proof of your original OP.
Don't need to, everyone who doesn't have an agenda, recognizes it happens on the forum regularly.

You're also someone who has things against Muslims personally; it is very hard to see all perspectives, whilst we're busy taking sides.
An element of truth doesn't make it the whole truth.
Not trying to establish it as truth, was saying it was made up propaganda. :rolleyes:
As usual, these are just anti-Semitic myths. You are just using them to prop up your arguments and covert anti-Semitism.
Not got a bit of antisemitism or racism, as I'm genetically of the same tribes...

Fair enough think Rabbinic literature is naive in many places; yet that is an ideological driven point, and the fact you can't distinguish between says more about you.

They might be myths, and the point is every myth about Muslims is fine; you literally disgusted me about your Aisha thread which was allowed, even though it broke the forums whole premise of allowing fair debate.
Anti-Semitism is anti-Semitism and I won't overlook it.
This is exactly the point, you're making up lies, don't care when corrected; this hate driven agenda has blinded you to even listening properly.
'The Jews want to enslave all the goyim'.
This is an expectation, watch the videos, and go research; rather then lie about me, as you're ignorant of the beliefs.
'Jewish blood libel might be true'
Never said it is or isn't, said keeping it as a variable, and will ask God, before making any judgement; therefore your whole case is a lie, plus you're not even listening or interested in knowing the truth. :innocent:
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
you're not even listening or interested in knowing the truth


I find that most people in the west don't want the truth, they are quite content getting their information from the media who's right wing owners/dictators have their own agenda.

In the UK this media accounts for 80%+ of published news, i believe the figure is higher in the US.

The users of these media sources can happily ignore the 20% or less they don't like because the 'news' they do like is overwhelming.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
While you are not promoting their actions, I haven't seen you condemn them yet.
This thread is not to take sides, I think both should fix their differences, and both have many atrocities; yet personally do not care to list atrocities, it is a religious forum...

I spend my time trying to correct everyone's ideologies, so we can all get on; not post negative things, that cause more animosity.
Do you have a source for that statement or is it just another of your opinions?
The source of criticism, and violent serial killers is the start of 'How to Win Friends and Influence People', it is the first point in the book.

The same reference can be used to see that, anyone becomes more challenging, when constantly cornered...

There was a rabbit, that put two terriers into the vet with over 20 stitches each, as they cornered it.
If you are putting all of the blame on Israel, which you seem to be doing, you are condemning their religion.
Not made sides in the slightest, said the individuals who cause further animosity have issues.
if you want to debate me on my beliefs about Islam and A'isha then go ahead. Make a thread.
Of course don't want to debate it, just the same as with the blood libel case being hundreds of years ago, there is nothing but conjecture to be had from debating it; it was just the manipulative way of posting it where no one was allowed to debate it, and then overly emphasizing the point to cause an affray.
if you can't/won't provide proof of your OP then this whole thread is void.
If you can't see it, when anyone without an agenda can; not specifying individuals to cause issues. :innocent:
 
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