What is wrong with sharia law?

[Godobeyer]

Like if two people were arrested for being black, and the person who'd put them in jail said 'If they can wash that dark colour off their skin, we'll let them out!' would you find that funny?

Because what you're saying is basically as bad as that.

No,it's not funny for me, but maybe for someone else.

 

[Kirran]

Exemple sources as evidence of punishement.

Varies massively, even within the USA the punishment varies a lot. Generally fines and prison sentences. In Louisiana you get registered as a sex offender, or did anyway.

You must be kidding ?

I know how much you are stubborn,and that will not change the fact it's dirty relation if compared to "woman/man" one

What is "dirty" about it? You've just been raised to think that, it's something people say in your culture. But there's nothing about it which is in some way objectively true.

A friend I went to school with got married a couple years ago to her college girlfriend. They live in Wales still, and might be starting a family soon. What's dirty about that?

A close friend of my mother's, who's an artist like she is, lives with his partner in the next county from where my parents live. Nice big house with some outbuildings, they have a dog, I think maybe a horse as well. One of them's a painter, not sure what the other one does for a living actually. What's dirty about it?

At the monastery I go to, one friend of mine is planning on becoming a monk. Before he moved there, he was living with his boyfriend, who he was with for a long time. Over the course of his life he's had a few long-term relationships, some with men and some with women. He's been very deeply in love with his partners. Where's the dirtiness? I honestly just don't see it.

No,it's not funny for me, but maybe for someone else.

So you have some kind of standards then?

 

[Godobeyer]

I think it's a bit sad that we don't have any of the progressive Muslim voices consistently represented on RF. They're certainly out there, and growing stronger.

Normally I would report such posts and the one that Godobeyer made immediately. But I stopped and thought about it for a good long while and decided that it would be better for RF if people could see for themselves the sort of attitudes that Islamic superstition produces.

I just want to clarify my opinion, I disgusting the relation (not persons) I find it abnormal and immoral exactly as animal sex.

That's me,I would please anyone by post "fake opinions".

 

[Kirran]

I just want to clarify my opinion, I disgusting the relation (not persons) I find it abnormal and immoral exactly as animal sex.

That's me,I would please anyone by post "fake opinions".

What about it is immoral? I really am curious, as I don't understand why you hold this opinion.

 

[Godobeyer]

What about it is immoral? I really am curious, as I don't understand why you hold this opinion.

I find it immoral that someone get lust for same gender.
That relation is dirty and immoral and unhealthy compared to opposite sex.(man with woman).

 

[Kirran]

I find it immoral that someone get lust for same gender.
That relation is dirty and immoral and unhealthy compared to opposite sex.(man with woman).

But what is immoral about it? What is dirty about it? I just don't see it.

When I was about 13, my first crush was on a boy. I don't see what the big deal with that is. It wasn't different to when I had crushes on girls later.

 

[Godobeyer]

But what is immoral about it? What is dirty about it? I just don't see it.

When I was about 13, my first crush was on a boy. I don't see what the big deal with that is. It wasn't different to when I had crushes on girls later.

Because it's suppose to be man get lust for woman(and inverse).
annal relation is dirty compared to normal one.

So you were gay and become straight

 

[Kirran]

Because it's suppose to be man get lust for woman(and inverse).
annal relation is dirty compared to normal one.

So you were gay and become straight

Why is it supposed to be that? In what way can we observe that?

Homosexuality =/= anal sex. Most homosexuals never have anal sex. Many heterosexuals do. Have your parents had anal sex? Or do you respect them as human beings and not ask?

Nah, I was never gay. Being gay is about exclusive attraction to people of the same gender. I didn't exhibit that.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

I just want to clarify my opinion, I disgusting the relation (not persons) I find it abnormal and immoral exactly as animal sex.

A poor excuse, perpetually. The "relation" is one and the same with the persons involved. Contrary to abhorrently barbaric and simplistic Abrahamic beliefs, homosexuality is not a choice, it is how they are. Just as you cannot choose to be homosexual (and please, spare yourself some dignity and don't throw out the "I wouldn't want to, it's a sin" excuse) they cannot choose to be anything other than what they are. "Hate the sin, love the sinner" doesn't work here, because you are hating the sinner. I find most times, the sinner is hated upon, and the mantra only serves to make the hater feel better about themselves.

Especially to equate it exactly to bestiality. That's just ridiculously asinine.

 

[Kirran]

Especially to equate it exactly to bestiality. That's just ridiculously asinine.

I think there's less need to get annoyed at people who compare homosexuality with zoophilia and paedophilia - it's a display of a lack of education and critical thinking is all. Lamentable as that is.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

I'm sorry, but I can't help but be annoyed at it; I've many very good friends that are homosexual - as I'm sure many more here do as well. I am certainly not personally offended at such ridiculous displays of ignorance, but I am unavoidably annoyed that the relationship between two consenting adult humans is equated to men who do more than stare at goats.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

I can made joke with everyone,

Again, you're missing the point. I'm not saying you can't - I'm saying you ought not to. Indeed if you're practising the true & perfect religion from the supreme source of morality in existence then you really ought to know better anyway.

gay people are not special,even there is websites made jokes about everyone.

Ah, the classic refuge of bullies and others who mock the powerless: 'they're all doing it too'.

Everybody now know that I do consider homosexuality as immoral and dirty relation.

And everyone knows you're willing to laugh at the fact gays are violently oppressed for who they are as well.

I just want to clarify my opinion, I disgusting the relation (not persons) I find it abnormal and immoral exactly as animal sex.

That's me,I would please anyone by post "fake opinions".

That's a worthless excuse. Unlike religion, you can't separate a person's homosexuality from who they are because it is inexorably part of who they are - it isn't something that can be chosen and it's not taught. And you can find it "abnormal and immoral exactly as animal sex" but that's an opinion that holds no basis in fact.

 

[love]

The problem with any law is that it must be enforced by humans and must be interpreted by judges.Corruption and power go hand in hand in many cases no matter what part of the globe you reside in. When you add in the religious factor of what someone thinks God demands of us then all freedoms are blown to hell. History proves this of all religions.
Laws should be to protect people and the earth that we depend on to sustain life.
When people enforce laws that their believes tells them offends God are they not in fact playing God? This should be left for God to sort out.
If I do not harm you or your family and mind my own business don't try to shove your believes down my throat. I will try to be a good steward of the earth and help my neighbor to the best of my ability.

 

[Notanumber]

We would be in a weary way now if we had thrown this genius off a tall building before the war started.

Alan Turing - Wikipedia

In those days, we showed our gratitude by trying to cure him of his condition. These days we would have rightfully honoured him for saving us from tyranny.

Now we are facing a new form of tyranny called Sharia Law.

 

[Godobeyer]

And everyone knows you're willing to laugh at the fact gays are violently oppressed for who they are as well.
.

Not true.
So you don't know me well.

 

[Godobeyer]

A poor excuse, perpetually. The "relation" is one and the same with the persons involved. Contrary to abhorrently barbaric and simplistic Abrahamic beliefs, homosexuality is not a choice, it is how they are. Just as you cannot choose to be homosexual (and please, spare yourself some dignity and don't throw out the "I wouldn't want to, it's a sin" excuse) they cannot choose to be anything other than what they are. "Hate the sin, love the sinner" doesn't work here, because you are hating the sinner. I find most times, the sinner is hated upon, and the mantra only serves to make the hater feel better about themselves.

Especially to equate it exactly to bestiality. That's just ridiculously asinine.

You wrong.
I do believe homosexuality is choice.,it's happened.
Same as to people whom can't quite smoking.some of them could.

Gay Conversion: I Slept With Over 200 Men, Now I'm a Happily Married Heterosexual Dad

Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says

 

[Godobeyer]

Why is it supposed to be that? In what way can we observe that?

Homosexuality =/= anal sex. Most homosexuals never have anal sex. Many heterosexuals do. Have your parents had anal sex? Or do you respect them as human beings and not ask?

Nah, I was never gay. Being gay is about exclusive attraction to people of the same gender. I didn't exhibit that.

For me who attract to same gender, same as who attract to animal,that immoral relation.

for anal sex even with married (man/woman) is forbiden in my religion.

I am surpise by you keep saying unpopular information about prositutation is not allowed in West, and punished by law,and saying homosexuality (gay) is not about anal sex.

 

[sovietchild]

A poor excuse, perpetually. The "relation" is one and the same with the persons involved. Contrary to abhorrently barbaric and simplistic Abrahamic beliefs, homosexuality is not a choice, it is how they are. Just as you cannot choose to be homosexual (and please, spare yourself some dignity and don't throw out the "I wouldn't want to, it's a sin" excuse) they cannot choose to be anything other than what they are. "Hate the sin, love the sinner" doesn't work here, because you are hating the sinner. I find most times, the sinner is hated upon, and the mantra only serves to make the hater feel better about themselves.

Especially to equate it exactly to bestiality. That's just ridiculously asinine.

How is it not a choice? They choice to do it.

 

[sovietchild]

What is wrong with those people who support homosexual acts?

 

[Kirran]

For me who attract to same gender, same as who attract to animal,that immoral relation.

Right, I see that - but why?

I am surpise by you keep saying unpopular information about prositutation is not allowed in West, and punished by law,and saying homosexuality (gay) is not about anal sex.

Right, prostitution is not normalised or accepted in Western societies, for the most part. In many Western countries it is illegal. In the others, it is generally regulated, which I prefer, as I think it's safer for the people involved.

Homosexuality is not about anal sex, correct. Homosexuality is about being attracted to people of the same sex. I don't why you're so obsessed with the details of men having sex with each other though. Around 60% of homosexual men engage in anal sex. That's about 30% of all homosexuals.