What is wrong with those people who bully others in order to silence them?

[David1967]

I was reading an article today about how one cyclist tried to silent one journalist, because the journalist was tracking down witnesses with knowledge of his program of illegal doping and writing articles about it. The cyclist would target him, dub him a “little troll”, and bring defamation cases against the journalist. The cyclist used his popularity, and his access to the media in order to bully the journalist into silence. To cut the story short, the cyclist eventually got in trouble for doping, and all his trophies was taken away from him.

What is wrong with those people who bully others in order to silence them?

Generally,(at least from my experience), their argument is not strong enough by itself.

 

[Deathbydefault]

What is wrong with those people who bully others in order to silence them?

Several things that may or may not be connected.
I would say there are two main reasons.
1- To protect their own interests, or those of someone else for whatever reason.
2- An inability to deal with the fact that others may have viewpoints they find disagreeable for whatever reason.

You could also say they do it for fun, like some punk high school kid.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Doesn't it look like he is trying to silent me, and attempting to defame me by associate me with them?

First, that's not what Altfish is trying to do. Anyone with a modicum of intellect can see that. Second, you've already stated elsewhere on this forum that you sympathise with Islamic State. That 'defame me by association' ship sailed long, long ago.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

For example, few weeks ago there was one who bombed the football's team bus in Germany and left a letter by the scene, stating that the act is from ISIS. But the truth is, the bomber was actually trying to make a quick buck by betting on team's stock to go down. And, this is just one guy. Imagine on the large scale level. Using one's popularity and using the media to defame Islam.

So this one false-flag attack is proof that there's no basis for associating Islamic State with Islam, but the numerous other terrorist attacks carried out by jihadist barbarians all around the globe aren't proof that Islam is a religion that motivates intolerance, tribalism & violence? How the **** does this even make sense to you?

So, please don't try to associate ISIS with Islam.

Why on earth wouldn't we associate Islamic State with Islam? They're enacting a particular interpretation of Islamic law; declaring war against and enslaving those who don't follow Islam, forcing non-Muslims to pay the jizyah or face retribution, enacting Islamically-sanctioned punishments like stoning, beheading etc

You've even said you sympathise with Islamic State because of their iconoclasm - which is a key feature of some of the more violent interpretations of Islamic orthodoxy. So even you are associating Islamic State with Islam.

 

[sovietchild]

Second, you've already stated elsewhere on this forum that you sympathise with Islamic State.

First of all, this is not what this topic is all about, lets concentrate on the real issue. Second of all, I don't think you expressed your opinion. What is your take on the issue? And, third of all, does spreading rumors seem reasonable to you? I mean, I did stated how much ISIS is a product of NATO , why are you trying to link me up with oil diggers?

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

First of all, this is not what this topic is all about, lets concentrate on the real issue.

Islamic State are a very prominent example of people bullying others into silence - look at the Yazidi and the other areas of Iraq & Syria under their control; people living in areas liberated from IS rule have talked about how they were living in fear, that anyone raising a voice was punished harshly etc. With that in mind, try this example: what do you think of the Charlie Hebdo massacre and the lack of sympathetic action from the majority of Western media? Were the Islamists bullying the Western media into silence?

Second of all, I don't think you expressed your opinion.

You're incorrect; I did.

And, third of all, does spreading rumors seem reasonable to you?

No, it doesn't. So stop doing it.

I mean I did stated how much ISIS is a product of NATO, why are you trying to link me up with oil diggers?

I'm not. I'm trying to point out the very real link between Islamic State and Islam. I don't want to link you up with oil diggers, I want you and other Muslims to take ownership of your ****ing problems for once instead of blaming literally everyone else & shouldering none of the blame for them like you always do. Islamic State are motivated by Islamic ideology. So are Al Qaeda, Al-Shabaab, Boko Haram and other groups of Islamist savages. The Charlie Hebdo massacre and the Danish newspaper attacks were carried out because some Muslims believed that non-Muslims should be subject to Islamic religious diktats i.e. 'don't draw Muhammad or other sacred figures'.

The West may be to blame for the physical creation & financing of some of these groups but we did not supply them with their ideology. Grow the **** up and admit your religion has a problem instead of sticking your fingers in your ears and blaming the West because your religion is intolerant of those who believe differently - and encourages such attitudes in its followers.

 

[Stevicus]

I was reading an article today about how one cyclist tried to silent one journalist, because the journalist was tracking down witnesses with knowledge of his program of illegal doping and writing articles about it. The cyclist would target him, dub him a “little troll”, and bring defamation cases against the journalist. The cyclist used his popularity, and his access to the media in order to bully the journalist into silence. To cut the story short, the cyclist eventually got in trouble for doping, and all his trophies was taken away from him.

What is wrong with those people who bully others in order to silence them?

It depends on what they're wanting them to be silent about. In this example you give, the cyclist obviously didn't want information about his illegal doping to come out. He didn't want that information to be made public or face the consequences of his actions (which he eventually did, according to what you're saying).

So, he already did wrong by illegal doping, and he compounded that wrong by bullying someone into going along with a cover up of his illegal acts. To be sure, he's not the only one who has ever done such a thing. Governments have censored reporters in order to cover up their own wrongdoings. Private organizations have threatened and bullied whistleblowers to cover up their misdeeds.

As for what's wrong with those people? I guess they're just screwed-up human beings who desire wealth, power, and fame so much that they don't care what they have to do or who they have to hurt to get it. Strange world we live in. I suppose the only way to deal with them is to fight fire with fire and give them a taste of their own medicine.

 

[sovietchild]

............ they don't care what they have to do or who they have to hurt to get it.

Reminds me of this article. Opponents refusing to play Portuguese club known for 'terror environment'

A fourth-tier team in Portugal have won 11 straight games by forfeit because their opponents refuse to play them, alleging the team threatens players and that their matches take place in a "terror environment."

 

[Stevicus]

Reminds me of this article. Opponents refusing to play Portuguese club known for 'terror environment'

A fourth-tier team in Portugal have won 11 straight games by forfeit because their opponents refuse to play them, alleging the team threatens players and that their matches take place in a "terror environment."

Sounds like they need to hire some security guards at these matches. Why don't they just kick the team out of the league?

 

[sovietchild]

Sounds like they need to hire some security guards at these matches. Why don't they just kick the team out of the league?

I was thinking about that. Eventually they will collapse like Brazil did VS Germany in 2014 world cup.