What is your biggest reason for not becoming a Christian??

[UntemperedSchism]

Well, I require direct experience of the evidence because extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Yeah, I used to love that one too

I guess my response is: Only when you're either making claims or propagating them. My faith makes no assertions but rather states beliefs and causes me to share them with people of belief.

I believe that there is a God. I believe that God sometimes inspires people to see deeper truths than are readily apparent. I believe that those people are touched to lesser or greater degrees than others and that they have a tendency to bung things up when translating their experience into the context of their surroundings. I believe that the reason the story of Christ has become so entrenched in the world is that, more than any other person who has lived He was so fully consumed by the Spirit of God that He was literally God and man at the same time. I believe He tried to share truth in the best way possible, with people who lacked the intellect and education to grasp even the smallest part of what he was communicating and so He used language and parables that they would understand but that didn't necessarily translate properly. I believe that He died to offer evidence of His commitment to the truths he shared and by so doing hopefully inspire man to apply his teachings on community and peace and thereby save the world.

These are things that I believe; not because I have fact to back them up but because when I asked God to guide me to truth and to help me better understand Him, these are the conclusions and impressions that, over time, I was left with. Those conclusions may change and I would never be arrogant enough to try and convince someone else of their validity. But I will share those beliefs with those who ask and explain, as best as I can, the experience that led me to them. I make no claim to objective truth and nor should anyone who claims to be a person of faith; rather I share my beliefs with the notion that belief is just elevated hope and the world can always use a bit more hope; whether its found to be false or no.

 

[Barcode]

now now now...
where did i call you a troll...?
i said you were baiting....

you originally stated your opinion without explaining why you thought my reasons were based on conjecture rather than logic...
see if you had at least given a reason along with your criticism, i might have taken you seriously and considered your reasons. you have to admit, the way you handed it over was really weak and self defeating.
if you wanted to be taken seriously...
in other words, you got what you deserved and had the same crap thown your way...is that what you wanted, no? then grow up.
ok...so lets see what you have to say...


but i didn't say that, i said it piggy backs on an old bronze age superstition...
the idea of a messiah isn't a christian idea, is it...


oh i see so evil hasn't been done in the name of religion...:areyoucra
innocent children dying at the hands of their parent because of faith healing
or keeping birth control at bay in impoverished countries because it's a form of murder or how about slavery and women subjection to men...each perpetuated by the good book
what i said is supported by history, logic and therefore not inconclusive.

Me grow up? Yet by your inital post was a dumb joke? Ok.

No need to take me serious cause you don't define me. I am simply a cluster of words and an avatar. The same can be said about anyone here. Like I said your its still conjecture. There positives and negatives of the three major faiths. Nobody is denying that.....

 

[waitasec]

Me grow up? Yet by your inital post was a dumb joke? Ok.

No need to take me serious cause you don't define me. I am simply a cluster of words and an avatar. The same can be said about anyone here. Like I said your its still conjecture. There positives and negatives of the three major faiths. Nobody is denying that.....

like i said, you got back what you dished out...
be a little more respectful and offer a reason why you criticize if you want to be taken seriously...

 

[waitasec]

Me grow up? Yet by your inital post was a dumb joke? Ok.

No need to take me serious cause you don't define me. I am simply a cluster of words and an avatar. The same can be said about anyone here. Like I said your its still conjecture. There positives and negatives of the three major faiths. Nobody is denying that.....

and i noticed you have nothing to add...okay then

moving right along

 

[Barcode]

like i said, you got back what you dished out...
be a little more respectful and offer a reason why you criticize if you want to be taken seriously...

I added my reason. Besides I was being respectful. There is a difference between me calling what you said illogical and me calling you idiotic.

Also I added my response to yours previously which of course didn't refute nor denied anything i said with respect to christianity

 

[zuluniner]

No right or wrong answers on this one I just wondered how people felt....

my biggest reason for not becoming christian, is the hipocrisy.... and im not talking about christians. i am talking about the concept itself.

christianity supposedly condemns selfishness, self glorification, egotism and pride. yet it rallies around a supreme imaginary being with those very character flaws....

not only that, but christians make it their purpose in life to fulfill this egomaniacal being's selfish ego driven desires.

its a giant butt kissing parade.... submit, praise, worship, obey, and stroke the crap out of this being's ego here on earth, all in hopes that this imaginary being is mighty happy with your performance and wont torture you in hell for all eternity.

and what is the ultimate goal of a christian?? to get to heaven, where what happens? thats right, you get to continue kissing this being's behind for all eternity...


its the most idiotic self deprecating invention of a belief i have ever heard of in my life.....

so thats my main reason..... i have a thousand more of course.

 

[waitasec]

I added my reason. Besides I was being respectful. There is a difference between me calling what you said illogical and me calling you idiotic.

see, by not supporting your opinion, calling me idiotic is implicit...
common courtesy 101

Also I added my response to yours previously which of course didn't refute nor denied anything i said with respect to christianity

because you ruined the mood...
better luck next time.

 

[rusra02]

No right or wrong answers on this one I just wondered how people felt....

Since I am a Christian, I don't have a reason for not being one. But I am aware that many people don't become Christians for some of the following reasons:

• The doctrines of Trinity, Immortality of the soul, hellfire (none of which I as a Christian believe)
• The horrible conduct and hypocrisy of many of those who profess to be Christians (big reason)
• The misinformation about what true Christianity really is and isn't
• The desire to live one's life without being answerable to God.
• The multiplicity of professed "Christian" churches and resultant confusion.
• The peer pressure one experiences when seeking to become a Christian from family and others.

 

[SageTree]

Hey Barcode and waitasec!

This is debates forum.... not bicker at each other

 

[waitasec]

Since I am a Christian, I don't have a reason for not being one. But I am aware that many people don't become Christians for some of the following reasons:

• The doctrines of Trinity, Immortality of the soul, hellfire (none of which I as a Christian believe)
• The horrible conduct and hypocrisy of many of those who profess to be Christians (big reason)
  [*]The misinformation about what true Christianity really is and isn't
  
• The multiplicity of professed "Christian" churches and resultant confusion.
• The peer pressure one experiences when seeking to become a Christian from family and others.

and of course one is supposed to have

[*]The desire to live one's life [snip] being answerable to God.

considering this list...


what is the correct information (doctrine, conduct, and church) that dispalys what true christianity really is and isn't because you obviously know, right?
just like every other christian.

 

[rusra02]

and of course one is supposed to have


considering this list...


what is the correct information (doctrine, conduct, and church) that dispalys what true christianity really is and isn't because you obviously know, right?
just like every other christian.

I would think that anyone who puts time, resources, and hope in a religion would be convinced they were following the true faith. True Christians are followers of Christ and observe his commandments. They obey all the things Christ commands. (Matthew 28:19,20)

 

[waitasec]

I would think that anyone who puts time, resources, and hope in a religion would be convinced they were following the true faith. True Christians are followers of Christ and observe his commandments. They obey all the things Christ commands. (Matthew 28:19,20)

it's dangerous to arrive to a point where one thinks they know they have the true faith which should be applied to everyone rather than just keeping it to oneself

one can say the same about those who flew into the WTC
they were convinced and had the chutzpah to prove it.

please don't avoid the question
what is the correct information (doctrine, conduct, and church) that dispalys what true christianity really is and isn't?

pssst, i have a little secret
if you attempt to answer it with a specific doctrine, conduct and church then you don't know.

 

[Vasiel]

it's dangerous to arrive to a point where one thinks they know they have the true faith which should be applied to everyone rather than just keeping it to oneself

one can say the same about those who flew into the WTC
they were convinced and had the chutzpah to prove it.

please don't avoid the question
what is the correct information (doctrine, conduct, and church) that dispalys what true christianity really is and isn't?

pssst, i have a little secret
if you attempt to answer it with a specific doctrine, conduct and church then you don't know.

Excellent post

 

[Knowledge&Truth]

Was raised christian, gave it up. Looked into Judaism ,agnostisism, and eventually settled on atheism as being the most correct and honest.

sorry if this comes off as rude, but i seen u were atheist and wondered if u truly believe there is nothing more to us than flesh and bone. i mean just the act of love or conception cant be completely explained by science. so is it just Abraham religions or spirituality in general.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

I could list about a hundred problems I see with Christianity and the reasons I'm not one but I'll boil it down to just a few.

1.) Christian doctrine and the stories in the Bible are just too self-contradictory, unrealistic and implausible.

2.) Based on my experiences as a Christian and my observations of Christians and Christianity since, Christianity and being a Christian changes nothing.

3.) I got sick and tired of seeing myself as a wretched sinner and feeling guilty for every little transgression.

Because of that, I got away from it and now I am:

4.) much more at peace with myself as an atheist than I ever was as a Christian.

 

[BottomlessThought]

Just like the guy above me (it's 1:00 AM and I'm tired), "I could list about a hundred problems I see with Christianity and the reasons I'm not one but I'll boil it down to just a few.

1.) Christian doctrine and the stories in the Bible are just too self-contradictory, unrealistic and implausible.

2.) Based on my observations of Christians and Christianity, Christianity and being a Christian changes nothing."