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What is your general view on nuclear fallout in the Marshall Islands

amorphous_constellation

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I have been watching various documentaries, and reading articles on this. I don't know that much about this series of nuclear tests, but it is very quickly looking, to me, like the most atrocious thing that our modern free nation has done

Are these islands safe to even live on, is the water being tested, who is responsible for the waste pit(s), and what is the cancer rate. What is the narrative about all of that.

Are the peoples that live there, better for our 'modern' contact? Or were those islands changed forever, for the worse, by modern contact

None of this was looked at , at all in high school
 
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As far as I know, the islands are no longer considered safe for people. However, the ocean environment around them has rebounded and is doing very well - because no one is fishing there. No people = nature does well.

The people who were living on Bikini Atoll were forcibly moved. And a ton of medical studies done on them, without their consent. I believe they were told the tests were vaccines - i.e., they were lied to.

Generally, with contact, indigenous people's lives worsen. Especially in regards to the islands our societies have bombed, we've essentially turned the inhabitants into refugees.

Looks like wikipedia has a lot of info on it:

Bikini Atoll - Wikipedia
 

Bluedragon

New Member
I wrote a thesis in college about the conditions in the waters surrounding the islands. Curiously, there are no three eyed, pigeon toed, five legged mutated fish swimming the seas. The corals and surrounding sea life is flourishing.
 

amorphous_constellation

Well-Known Member
I wrote a thesis in college about the conditions in the waters surrounding the islands. Curiously, there are no three eyed, pigeon toed, five legged mutated fish swimming the seas. The corals and surrounding sea life is flourishing.

I'll be looking for some kind of book on this at some point, as it I eat through my current book queue. What about cancer rates, and like radiation readings in the soil or sand of different spots. Would it really be safe to walk on different areas?
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
I wrote a thesis in college about the conditions in the waters surrounding the islands. Curiously, there are no three eyed, pigeon toed, five legged mutated fish swimming the seas. The corals and surrounding sea life is flourishing.
Yep. Just like life is flourishing around Chernobyl, and nature has reclaimed the area.
 

amorphous_constellation

Well-Known Member
Yep. Just like life is flourishing around Chernobyl, and nature has reclaimed the area.

So before making this thread, I had watched this documentary called 'the coming war on china' by John Pilger, not intending to learn about the marshall islands, but that's what the first half hour of his documentary is about. He said there at about the 17 minute mark that his shoes read unsafe levels on a geiger counter. You may also want to google something about the birth defects there, which will reveal immediate search results.

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On Chernobyl

Forests Around Chernobyl Aren’t Decaying Properly | Science | Smithsonian Magazine

You know in past few summers, I could smell fires happening in canada that were many hundreds of miles away, and there was some smog from it. So if the radiation has slowed the bacteria that eat dead biological matter, and now there is biological buildup around chernobyl, hopefully a wildfire does not end up occurring around there
 
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