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You sure?Oh, it was not tongue-in-cheek.
Posting this with a straight face and not seeing the irony would take some special mindset.I believe your beliefs are false.
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You sure?Oh, it was not tongue-in-cheek.
Posting this with a straight face and not seeing the irony would take some special mindset.I believe your beliefs are false.
Religion is supposed to be scary. If it's not scary, it's not religion. Why? To reject it and live happy.What do you believe?
Absolutely. I've been on that merry-go-round before. It's 99.999879% passive-aggressive, the insult being couched in the forum rules-required "I believe".You sure?
As a transtheist, I really don't have one. I acknowledge the existence of gods and their purpose, but I have no interest or practical use for them.What do you believe?
- What is your conception of God/Gods? Why?
In relation to me, nothing. I'm not comfortable speaking for others, but in my experience, gods, for the most part, are useful in guiding their believers morally, ethically, and personally through their lives and in offering comfort in difficult times.
- What does the existence of this God or these Gods mean or imply in relation to you and others?
I have no personal relationships with any deities.
- How do you relate to God or the Gods?
Doesn't apply.
- Does this God or these Gods have a set of morals It/they desire you to follow, any kind of rules?
Aside from meditation, I have no religious rituals, per se.
- What rituals do you perform and why? If other people in your group have a different ritual (i.e. some Christians have a sacrificial mass, others have a symbolic sacrifice, still some have no mass etc.) why do you reject those forms of ritual?
I don't worship.
- What other forms of worship do you have? Why? What underpins these specific kinds of worship?
As I have done with other religions, if there was something about Hinduism that I found uncomfortable, that needed change, or that I dislike, I'd simply walk away.
- Is there anything about your religion that makes you uncomfortable/you would change/you dislike etc?
No.
- Do you engage in any forms of worship your religion forbids? Why?
Yes, there are many books/scriptures in Hinduism. Of these, I've primarily studied the Principle Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita, and the Gospel of Ramakrishna.
- Does your religion have a book or books, even if not explicitly sacred scripture?
I've only one. Liberation is attain through Self-realization, i.e. removing ignorance of one's own true nature.
- What would you say are your religion's 3 main theological teachings (about God, spirits, angels, salvation etc.)?
I've had mystical experiences throughout the course of my life. To my knowledge, there is no conflict between Hinduism and these experiences.
- Would you say you've had any paranormal or supernatural experiences? How does this fit or not with your beliefs?
Specifics among schools of philosophy vary, but in my understanding, there is a cycle of reincarnation in samsara, and there is liberation from this cycle.
- Is there an afterlife?
There may be a few.
- Are there holidays? What do they celebrate?
There are many schools of philosophy primarily falling into either dvaita (dual) and adviata (non-dual). The primary differences are in how relationships with divinity are viewed.
- Are there sects? What differentiates them?
As I understand it, traditionally, there are.
- Are there separate rules for men and women?
Experience. I'm not one to believe what is written or told; I trust in my own personal experiences.
- How do you judge the truth of your religion? Why do you believe it at all?
Universal ideals to strive for. Transcend human nature.What is your conception of God/Gods? Why?
Well they don't exist, but to me humans must overcome tribalism, relativism, and nihilism.What does the existence of this God or these Gods mean or imply in relation to you and others?
I try to fathom them. I can't claim relationship.How do you relate to God or the Gods?
There's over 100 virtues, and character traits one can find in the dictionary. Live in defense of virtues as is applicable to me. Vices are never good.Does this God or these Gods have a set of morals It/they desire you to follow, any kind of rules?
No rituals. No sacrifices. Only appreciation and gratefulness.What rituals do you perform and why? If other people in your group have a different ritual (i.e. some Christians have a sacrificial mass, others have a symbolic sacrifice, still some have no mass etc.
Humble submission. Reverence. Because I'm not perfect. No formal ceremonies.
- What other forms of worship do you have? Why? What underpins these specific kinds of worship?
The certainty I have that God's don't exist.Is there anything about your religion that makes you uncomfortable/you would change/you dislike etc?
No.Do you engage in any forms of worship your religion forbids
Any dictionary with meanings about positive character traits.Does your religion have a book or books, even if not explicitly sacred scripture?
They are all ideal archetypes. They inspire change. Humans can achieve realization of levels of archetypes.What would you say are your religion's 3 main theological teachings (about God, spirits, angels, salvation etc.)?
Nope. It's not applicable.Would you say you've had any paranormal or supernatural experiences? How does this fit or not with your beliefs?
I believe there is an infinite intelligent eternal source reality, but it's not personable, and is mainly a mystery. We are here to learn anything at all about existence and life.Is there an afterlife?
I feel religion has a lot to offer as a subject of study despite the corruptions it manifests. I create my own religion for my own growth.Are there sects? What differentiates them?
They are supremely equal.Are there separate rules for men and women?
By the effects I have on the people I know and love. Love of truth is why I practice my religion. Even if I cease to exist forever and ever, I still would practice it. I have hope against all hope that truth will become if it isn't quite there yet. Or maybe somewhere it exists. Universals matter to me even if no one else regards them.How do you judge the truth of your religion? Why do you believe it at all?
I believe in the Judeo-Christian God, and I am vehemently opposed to the notion that there is any other divine Being within the universe other than God the Father - YHWH.What do you believe?
- What is your conception of God/Gods? Why?
- What does the existence of this God or these Gods mean or imply in relation to you and others?
- How do you relate to God or the Gods?
- Does this God or these Gods have a set of morals It/they desire you to follow, any kind of rules?
- What rituals do you perform and why? If other people in your group have a different ritual (i.e. some Christians have a sacrificial mass, others have a symbolic sacrifice, still some have no mass etc.) why do you reject those forms of ritual?
- What other forms of worship do you have? Why? What underpins these specific kinds of worship?
- Is there anything about your religion that makes you uncomfortable/you would change/you dislike etc?
- Do you engage in any forms of worship your religion forbids? Why?
- Does your religion have a book or books, even if not explicitly sacred scripture?
- What would you say are your religion's 3 main theological teachings (about God, spirits, angels, salvation etc.)?
- Would you say you've had any paranormal or supernatural experiences? How does this fit or not with your beliefs?
- Is there an afterlife?
- Are there holidays? What do they celebrate?
- Are there sects? What differentiates them?
- Are there separate rules for men and women?
- How do you judge the truth of your religion? Why do you believe it at all?
Nah. It's perfectly OK to call beliefs false. And if you do it tongue-in-cheek, as @Muffled did, it's even funny.
Of course, it would have much more impact if they could use arguments and evidence.
Can I get true and false for $300 please Alex?I believe both beliefs are false.
I look out into cosmos and can only see a very tiny part of it, we know our understanding of regular physics gets flipped around and turned inside out with quantum physics, and I can't even figure myself out or prevent errors in my interpretations or thoughts so I'm content just trying ti solve what very little, minuscule speck of reality and the Cosmos around me. I doubt I'll be able to even have an honest glimpse of anything beyond that and with so much I cam never know then something like a god seems utterly beyond me.What do you believe?
- What is your conception of God/Gods? Why?
- What does the existence of this God or these Gods mean or imply in relation to you and others?
- How do you relate to God or the Gods?
- Does this God or these Gods have a set of morals It/they desire you to follow, any kind of rules?
- What rituals do you perform and why? If other people in your group have a different ritual (i.e. some Christians have a sacrificial mass, others have a symbolic sacrifice, still some have no mass etc.) why do you reject those forms of ritual?
- What other forms of worship do you have? Why? What underpins these specific kinds of worship?
- Is there anything about your religion that makes you uncomfortable/you would change/you dislike etc?
- Do you engage in any forms of worship your religion forbids? Why?
- Does your religion have a book or books, even if not explicitly sacred scripture?
- What would you say are your religion's 3 main theological teachings (about God, spirits, angels, salvation etc.)?
- Would you say you've had any paranormal or supernatural experiences? How does this fit or not with your beliefs?
- Is there an afterlife?
- Are there holidays? What do they celebrate?
- Are there sects? What differentiates them?
- Are there separate rules for men and women?
- How do you judge the truth of your religion? Why do you believe it at all?
I believe there is one God but that may be known in several forms; some forms are clearer than others, I would bring in the concept of veils here, so if you're interacting with some kind of angel, you're engaging with a veiled form of God. So I could say that there are Gods in the sense that God can divide Himself infinitely while remaining a unity. I believe this because I, like many, see the needfulness of an ultimate singularity, but also that our world consists of multiplicities, and that we can see God reflected in both.
- What is your conception of God/Gods? Why?
It means that there's more than just material; more to understanding than just Methodological Naturalism. It implies that you can connect to something beyond nature, something that created nature; it implies more meaning than just atoms, that there's more to explore and understand. It helps many to have mystical experiences, to transcend the self, to bring meaning and fresh understanding to one's life.
- What does the existence of this God or these Gods mean or imply in relation to you and others?
I relate very strongly to God; I talk to God every day, I come to Him with my problems, anguishes, fears etc. I put my burdens on God and ask for help. I have a bit of scrupulosity as well. I fret over being judged.
- How do you relate to God or the Gods?
Yes. In Kemetic thought there are the 42 Negative Confessions found in various forms in the Book of Going Forth by Day.
- Does this God or these Gods have a set of morals It/they desire you to follow, any kind of rules?
Mainly nowadays I light candles and pray. I use statues in my worship, as well as icons and other images. I don't really reject any forms of ritual. I also like using incense, giving food and drink offerings etc. Fairly typical things. I reject rituals related to Egypt specific things because they don't apply to me. There's also no Pharaoh but you can make offerings to dead ones.
- What rituals do you perform and why? If other people in your group have a different ritual (i.e. some Christians have a sacrificial mass, others have a symbolic sacrifice, still some have no mass etc.) why do you reject those forms of ritual?
I think enjoying and appreciating the world and folks around us is a form of worship. It's God creation and it ought to reflect that, so we should try to better it, to have good interaction, keep it clean and healthy etc.
- What other forms of worship do you have? Why? What underpins these specific kinds of worship?
I'm often uncomfortable with it being Egypt, as my forebears had their own forms of Paganism; the Celts, the Germanics had their own ways of worship. We just don't know a great deal about them and I am uncomfortable with many of their moral values and behaviours that do not reflect the society I want to live in. Kemet has much better moral values, in my estimation, than any European Paganism that we know of. They rejected human sacrifice very early, for instance, and had a sophisticated court system. I am also at odds with the fact that I love Mediaeval Europe and appreciate that their from of Christianity led to modern Europe and what I consider good values, but I reject Christianity. Yet I would prefer people stick to their native religion, at least dig into it before rejecting it. I feel bad about rejecting this part of my heritage that lasted so long. If I could I'd just be a Christian, or even a European Pagan.
- Is there anything about your religion that makes you uncomfortable/you would change/you dislike etc?
I tend to ancestor worship my Mediaeval forbears; not sure they'd like this
- Do you engage in any forms of worship your religion forbids? Why?
Kemet has many books, such as the Book of Going Forth by Day, the Amduat, the Book of Gates, The Book of the Heavenly Cow, there are a few more I can't recall right now.
- Does your religion have a book or books, even if not explicitly sacred scripture?
That God is One and Many. That there is judgement after death. That you should honour the God.
- What would you say are your religion's 3 main theological teachings (about God, spirits, angels, salvation etc.)?
I think I've had some and they don't contradict my religious beliefs.
- Would you say you've had any paranormal or supernatural experiences? How does this fit or not with your beliefs?
Yes, but if you've been irredeemably bad your soul is annihilated.
- Is there an afterlife?
Usually they celebrate the New Year, New Moons or various things related to the Gods, such as Horu's birthday or divine marriages etc.
- Are there holidays? What do they celebrate?
There are some small sects but most Kemetics tend to be independent. Kemetic Orthodoxy comes to mind.
- Are there sects? What differentiates them?
Not that I know, at least not in moral values. I'm sure Kemet as a society had many.
- Are there separate rules for men and women?
Experience.
- How do you judge the truth of your religion? Why do you believe it at all?
I did, too. But I figured I'd see them if and when you wanted to share them.
Yes please, and thank you.
I am glad you shared your experience with us, and because you mentioned your scrupulosity I won't nitpick what you said although as a natural theologian I do have issues with some of your answers. I realize this probably got more traffic because it was in debates but this thread very much feels in line with what people talk about and say in Interfaith.I believe there is one God but that may be known in several forms; some forms are clearer than others, I would bring in the concept of veils here, so if you're interacting with some kind of angel, you're engaging with a veiled form of God. So I could say that there are Gods in the sense that God can divide Himself infinitely while remaining a unity. I believe this because I, like many, see the needfulness of an ultimate singularity, but also that our world consists of multiplicities, and that we can see God reflected in both.
It means that there's more than just material; more to understanding than just Methodological Naturalism. It implies that you can connect to something beyond nature, something that created nature; it implies more meaning than just atoms, that there's more to explore and understand. It helps many to have mystical experiences, to transcend the self, to bring meaning and fresh understanding to one's life.
I relate very strongly to God; I talk to God every day, I come to Him with my problems, anguishes, fears etc. I put my burdens on God and ask for help. I have a bit of scrupulosity as well. I fret over being judged.
Yes. In Kemetic thought there are the 42 Negative Confessions found in various forms in the Book of Going Forth by Day.
Mainly nowadays I light candles and pray. I use statues in my worship, as well as icons and other images. I don't really reject any forms of ritual. I also like using incense, giving food and drink offerings etc. Fairly typical things. I reject rituals related to Egypt specific things because they don't apply to me. There's also no Pharaoh but you can make offerings to dead ones.
I think enjoying and appreciating the world and folks around us is a form of worship. It's God creation and it ought to reflect that, so we should try to better it, to have good interaction, keep it clean and healthy etc.
I'm often uncomfortable with it being Egypt, as my forebears had their own forms of Paganism; the Celts, the Germanics had their own ways of worship. We just don't know a great deal about them and I am uncomfortable with many of their moral values and behaviours that do not reflect the society I want to live in. Kemet has much better moral values, in my estimation, than any European Paganism that we know of. They rejected human sacrifice very early, for instance, and had a sophisticated court system. I am also at odds with the fact that I love Mediaeval Europe and appreciate that their from of Christianity led to modern Europe and what I consider good values, but I reject Christianity. Yet I would prefer people stick to their native religion, at least dig into it before rejecting it. I feel bad about rejecting this part of my heritage that lasted so long. If I could I'd just be a Christian, or even a European Pagan.
I tend to ancestor worship my Mediaeval forbears; not sure they'd like this
Kemet has many books, such as the Book of Going Forth by Day, the Amduat, the Book of Gates, The Book of the Heavenly Cow, there are a few more I can't recall right now.
That God is One and Many. That there is judgement after death. That you should honour the God.
I think I've had some and they don't contradict my religious beliefs.
Yes, but if you've been irredeemably bad your soul is annihilated.
Usually they celebrate the New Year, New Moons or various things related to the Gods, such as Horu's birthday or divine marriages etc.
There are some small sects but most Kemetics tend to be independent. Kemetic Orthodoxy comes to mind.
Not that I know, at least not in moral values. I'm sure Kemet as a society had many.
Experience.
God is infinite power.What is your conception of God/Gods?
Do ya?I believe your beliefs are false.
I think religion has this strange obsession that there is something wrong that needs to be corrected.Religion is supposed to be scary. If it's not scary, it's not religion. Why? To reject it and live happy.
I believe awakenings usually are rude but it is better than living in a stupor.That's rude to say. Beliefs are an individual thing.
I believe your beliefs don't count for much. Evidently one or two false beliefs leads to others.I believe your beliefs about my beliefs are false haha
I believe I don't usually do that unless asked. I expect people to attempt to defend their beliefs if they can. Usually all I get in response is a nyah nyah which doesn't count for much.Nah. It's perfectly OK to call beliefs false. And if you do it tongue-in-cheek, as @Muffled did, it's even funny.
Of course, it would have much more impact if they could use arguments and evidence.
I believe Harry Truman said: "If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen." However I am willing to tell you lies if it makes you feel better After all I still have a dark side.Oh, it was not tongue-in-cheek.