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What Isn't God?

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
I don't think it is really that easy.

What is the difference between god and the devil?
Well the underlining assumption of this thread is that God is everything. I disagree with this, in that God may have created everything, but that is where it ends for some creations. Satan may be linked to God in that God created Satan, but Satan was created simply to be destroyed. Of course God is not going to destroy himself, we know that God is not Satan.
 

Commoner

Headache
Well the underlining assumption of this thread is that God is everything. I disagree with this, in that God may have created everything, but that is where it ends for some creations.

In other words, god is not anything?

Satan may be linked to God in that God created Satan, but Satan was created simply to be destroyed. Of course God is not going to destroy himself, we know that God is not Satan.

That might be the most illogical thing I've ever heard.
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
In other words, god is not anything?
Why do you say that?
That might be the most illogical thing I've ever heard.
Not really it is quite simple. We know Satan will be destroyed. If Satan was God than it would mean God will be destroyed. We know that isn't going to happen, so we know God is not Satan. Which answers the OP.
 

Commoner

Headache
Why do you say that?

God created everything => god is not a part of everything => god is not anything.

Not really it is quite simple. We know Satan will be destroyed. If Satan was God than it would mean God will be destroyed. We know that isn't going to happen, so we know God is not Satan. Which answers the OP.

We know?

Of course, if god were Satan, he might have lied to you, huh? Only by assuming that god is god (great logic, btw) can you conclude that god is not Satan.
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
God created everything => god is not a part of everything => god is not anything.
My friend, the thread assumes there is a God, so for the threads sake, I represent my God here. My God says there are some people that are one with God, through Jesus. So your arrangement doesn't work for me. No big deal...



Again, I am going with the flow of the thread, and I reasonably assumed it is for those that think god is real.

Of course, if god were Satan, he might have lied to you, huh? Only by assuming that god is god (great logic, btw) can you conclude that god is not Satan.
I can only assume God is not Satan by carefully studying the bible and reflecting on my own life and path. That is the best anyone can do as far as I am concerned. If I am wrong, so be it.
 

Commoner

Headache
My friend, the thread assumes there is a God, so for the threads sake, I represent my God here. My God says there are some people that are one with God, through Jesus. So your arrangement doesn't work for me. No big deal...

Your god is self-contradictory, so it doesn't work for me. No big deal...not for me anyway...

I can only assume God is not Satan by carefully studying the bible and reflecting on my own life and path. That is the best anyone can do as far as I am concerned. If I am wrong, so be it.

Yes, you can only assume.
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
Look:

Need I explain any further?
OMG :facepalm:
I will say it again for the rest of the class. I am representing my God here, since it is assumed God is real for this thread. My God teaches through the bible that this will happen, so yes we know from that perspective.

I assumed I wasn't talking to a 3rd grader and you could put that together. If you want to get hung up crap like that, I am not interested.
 

Commoner

Headache
OMG :facepalm:
I will say it again for the rest of the class. I am representing my God here, since it is assumed God is real for this thread. My God teaches through the bible that this will happen, so yes we know from that perspective.

I assumed I wasn't talking to a 3rd grader and you could put that together. If you want to get hung up crap like that, I am not interested.

Sure, not really worth getting hung up on making sure your basic assumptions are reasonable. The question you were answering was, "What is the difference between god and the devil?"

You chose to, in essence, answer that "god is god, therefore god is not the devil". Do you see why some might have a problem with that logic (including 3rd graders)?
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
Sure, not really worth getting hung up on making sure your basic assumptions are reasonable. The question you were answering was, "What is the difference between god and the devil?"

You chose to, in essence, answer that "god is god, therefore god is not the devil". Do you see why some might have a problem with that logic (including 3rd graders)?
Maybe, but I was pretty clear about saying from a biblical perspective it is not possible God is Satan or Satan is God. I dunno, but it isn't worth arguing about.
 

Commoner

Headache
Maybe, but I was pretty clear about saying from a biblical perspective it is not possible God is Satan or Satan is God. I dunno, but it isn't worth arguing about.

Well, we all know what the Bible says, I don't think anyone was asking about that. ;)
 

freethinker44

Well-Known Member
Why do you say that?
Not really it is quite simple. We know Satan will be destroyed. If Satan was God than it would mean God will be destroyed. We know that isn't going to happen, so we know God is not Satan. Which answers the OP.



Too many assumtions to make a logical conclusion.
 

MoonShadow1

Freshman Member
What isn't God? Why or why not?

Greeting's,

Remember now, I'm new on this forum and as such I would like to offer the following on Willamena's intriguing post :

Perhaps as we consider the concept of a God or God's we should imagine an ancient time when the the people of this planet were perhaps more deeply involved with the all encompassing God concept .

It comes to mind that the great people of Egypt were deeply involved in the worship of the Mighty Sun God ! It was an absolutely essential worship and life and death
depended upon the faithful adherence to this dynamic worship ..... The Mayans were also deeply involved in a similar worship of the Sun God and again we find the
familiar pattern of essential .... life or death type worship for these incredible people ! The golden thread that runs through this appears to be that Worship of a God
or Gods is an absolute essential trait of the human race since the most ancient beginnings of time !

Another essential that bears a striking resemblence to the "Essential" nature of God Worship : I once viewed an austounding painting of "Diana The Huntress" .....
(worshiped as a "Great Goddess" since ancient times and also in our times! ) What a magnificent picture of "Diana" the Goddess... around an enchanted forest,
under the silvery glow of a full moon, bow in hand at the ready, deer running before her,flowing white rainment, and such a totally unprecedented beauty of a
Goddess ..... It simply appears to me that God, Gods, and the concept of God worship is absolutely essential for the human race .

So many Gods..... yet so many worshipers.....Pagan and Christian and of course many others. I hopefully have made some type of attempt to explain why I feel
that this may answer the part about Why God ?

I hope I have not worn your patience out !!! Thanks / M/S 1
 
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