What Kind of Luciferian are You?

[crossfire]

Mental universe? I've read that some see All as being mind. I know we experience life through the mind and each us add to the whole of our experiences while living - A collective conscious paradigm in play seems accurate. I agree that we are God, yet I likewise see the non-dualistic reality of being less than God also ... Much like drops of water of the ocean being the ocean, yet being much less than the ocean also.

Is this similar to your stance?

Etu would call wanting to join with the All as right-hand path, whereas separating from the All would be left-hand path.

Ok, well ... I guess this discussion is off limits. Isn't logic, reason, and individualism foundational for Luciferianians?

Indeed.

I'm not sure how that type of separation is even possible when those three are taken into account.

Consciously knowing them for what they are. Etu is big on idealism and Plato's World of Forms. The Ideal first forms can only manifest imperfectly here in the temporal world. This is where he gets his concept of Higher Self and Lower Self, the Higher Self being the ideal first form, the lower Self being the manifestation on this temporal plane. He wants to integrate the lower self into the higher self instead of it being absorbed by the temporal world.

Religion is personal anyway, but then so is everything else.

indeed

 

[Balthazzar]

Etu would call wanting to join with the All as right-hand path, whereas separating from the All would be left-hand path.

Indeed.

Consciously knowing them for what they are. Etu is big on idealism and Plato's World of Forms. The Ideal first forms can only manifest imperfectly here in the temporal world. This is where he gets his concept of Higher Self and Lower Self, the Higher Self being the ideal first form, the lower Self being the manifestation on this temporal plane. He wants to integrate the lower self into the higher self instead of it being absorbed by the temporal world.
indeed

I identify as a Christian also, which makes sense to some people and confuses the hell out of others. Separation (individualism) a personal relationship with the "All" based on my individualized subjective truth and attributes as this corresponds with objective reality. It's having a spirit of truth applied as a guiding system.

 

[crossfire]

I identify as a Christian also, which makes sense to some people and confuses the hell out of others. Separation (individualism) a personal relationship with the "All" based on my individualized subjective truth and attributes as this corresponds with objective reality. It's having a spirit of truth applied as a guiding system.

Just don't let your mind become overcome by groupthink. Think for yourself.

 

[Balthazzar]

Just don't let your mind become overcome by groupthink. Think for yourself.

That's the point entirely to my "personal relationship" approach. This is what separates me from everyone else as an individual. It's personal. It's also kind of funny. My Christian upbringing led me to Luciferian philosophy due to how compatible they are. I would have never acknowledged this if not for my study. I rarely claim to be Luciferian, but the Luciferian shoe fits me as a Christian. "Groupthink" is good in some cases, but not without my personal subjective input and ongoing acuity. These are required for my personal guidance through life.

 

[crossfire]

That's the point entirely to my "personal relationship" approach. This is what separates me from everyone else as an individual. It's personal. It's also kind of funny. My Christian upbringing led me to Luciferian philosophy due to how compatible they are. I would have never acknowledged this if not for my study. I rarely claim to be Luciferian, but the Luciferian shoe fits me as a Christian. "Groupthink" is good in some cases, but not without my personal subjective input and ongoing acuity. These are required for my personal guidance through life.

As a Christian then, remember that the holy spirit does not blind your mind. Rather, it illuminates (luciferian reference) your mind.

 

[Balthazzar]

As a Christian then, remember that the holy spirit does not blind your mind. Rather, it illuminates (luciferian reference) your mind.

An honest spirit reveals much.

 

[Balthazzar]

As a Christian then, remember that the holy spirit does not blind your mind. Rather, it illuminates (luciferian reference) your mind.

Allowing others to see where I am coming from as a truth oriented individual, who grew from Christian roots into who I am, accepting of all, yet resistant to some things according to my subjective reality, I am "aware" of such "illumination" and have been for over three decades now. I like the term, but resist utilizing it often enough to help avoid confusion. Enlightenment is another term I typically resist utilizing in discussions. The holy spirit is an honest one and discernment is required in the utilization of. It helps in my training as a disciple, being that I am continually being disciplined through it.