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What kind of things have you have learned from astral projection?And lucid dreaming?

Dimamuant

*Banned*
What kind of things have you have learned from astral projection?And lucid dreaming?:)
An interesting question from a species that refuses to evolve. A species that formed within a vessel , a species of dualism where the dominant form controls the host . A species that doesn't even realise , they astral project every time they look at something .

I look into the past now and I see the future because I am forever present !
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
The advantage is yours , to me a clam is just a clam and a crab is just a crab . It is brill of you to reply but I am not a big fan of unreliable phrases .

Well both those animals have not evolved for millions of years, and a handful of other animals too
On the other hand, all other animals we know of are evolving.
 

Dimamuant

*Banned*
Well both those animals have not evolved for millions of years, and a handful of other animals too
On the other hand, all other animals we know of are evolving.
You talk about animals as if they were different from your own body . Human bodies haven't evolved for millions of years either but the sentience keeps evolving . By difference I don't mean appearance or even the DNA intelligent order , I just simply mean the generalised term of animal . We force ourselves to type using our mind which tells me our sentience has control over matter . In essence if our sentience could evolve to the next level or beyond , we may not need the body , becoming a physical spirit .
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
What kind of things have you have learned from astral projection?And lucid dreaming?:)
You can directly learn about the archetypes of the collective unconscious, through spontaneous imagery generation by the inner self. The archetypes are connected to the operating system of the human brain, and these define us as a species and make basic human propensities, the same in all humans; collective human nature. The inner self as the center uses the archetypes like a situational jukebox. It time project and helps directs consciousness until the song ends.

The archetype will appear when the symbolism becomes less personal to the ego, and starts to be more classic and collective, within dreams and visions. Based on the types of symbols, that appear, you can map out the operating system. The hierarchy sort of reflect how consciousness and the firmware evolved, adding more advanced lawyers over time, onto previous layers.

Animals in dreams, are more connected to the base layers of natural instinct. The types of animal and how they impact you in the dream can help target specific instincts; lamb or lion. Animals with human attributes like a talking animal is more advanced; animal becoming humanized. Children are attracted to these type of symbols; cartoons, since this is where they are. While symbols like a half man and half horse; Centaur, show the human becoming more distinct but still with that natural animal vigor.

In dreams, the symbols can be both good and evil, friendly and scary, etc. That is connected to the effect of law or knowledge of good and evil on archetype evolution, creating this internal polarization. The sex of the animal can also give information. If the sex is different from your sex; male or female, it is connected to the next level or the female side of a man; anima, or the male side of a women; animus. But it is still natural with a second level addendum forming. The gender bending craze seems to come from this.

When the symbols become more fully human, we enter the middle level archetypes. This layer can also be good and evil, and male and female, with the symbols with the same sex part of your ego, and symbols from the other sex part of your unconscious mind. Gender bending is an unconscious compulsion. This symbols can range from child to older and from slave to royalty.

This level is connected to symbols of relationship. This is not just about human relationship, but also how things relate to each other. The white beard and red suit of Santa Claus, is less of a natural cause and effect, and more like an assigned cultural relationship. Statistical relates things with a random association. It is not fully rational anymore than the S on Superman's chest. But is defined that way and you go along. Relationship can even be empirical, or as observed, without being fully reasoned. The ancient could plot the planets and stars, using an astrology relationship. It led to a practical empirical system; middle level.

Men; sailors often call things like the sea or a ship; she. The term she tells us the relationship to the middle level; relationship. Both are like mother symbol that contain her offspring, either culturally; ship, or naturally; sea.

The highest level are the archetypes of meaning. This is more rational; 2-D cause and effect, but it also goes beyond reason to wisdom; spatial or 3-D thought. This may appear as symbol like the wise old man, who can also be good holy man or evil wizard.

Ancient mythology is useful in that is a snapshot of a point in time; state of the operating system. When the Titan were replaced by the Olympians, there was a shift away from the giant animal beasts; kraken, to more humanized; mellow out and add refinement.
 

Regiomontanus

Eastern Orthodox
Well both those animals have not evolved for millions of years, and a handful of other animals too
On the other hand, all other animals we know of are evolving.

Some very quickly.


#4 creeps me out and I worry about them every time I check into a hotel :)
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
You talk about animals as if they were different from your own body . Human bodies haven't evolved for millions of years either but the sentience keeps evolving . By difference I don't mean appearance or even the DNA intelligent order , I just simply mean the generalised term of animal . We force ourselves to type using our mind which tells me our sentience has control over matter . In essence if our sentience could evolve to the next level or beyond , we may not need the body , becoming a physical spirit .

Humans are animal.

See my avatar, a 22,000 year old early modern human skull. There are marked evolutionai differences between a 22,000 human and a human of today.
The skull is about 10% larger than todays humans with a larger brain case, the bone is on average 10% thicker than todays humans with measurable thickening of brow ridges.. The skeleton also is markedly different. Yes humans have evolved in as little os 22000 years. In fact every single birth shows evolutionary advancement over its parents, not much, but over millions of births, enough to be noticeable. If you know what you are looking for.

Did you notice that? Cro magmon (early modern humans) had a bigger brain than todays humans, i wonder why?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Some very quickly.


#4 creeps me out and I worry about them every time I check into a hotel :)

I kind of like the Langkawi Bent-toed Gecko. It's evolving so fast it's being observed by scientists as measurable from generation to generation.
 

Dimamuant

*Banned*
Humans are animal.
How true is your statement ?

I think you are confusing the terms , domesticated and wild !

We only identify ourselves as human because we are domesticated . Take away our humanity and we are no more than wild animals. We can look back in history to see examples of this , where more domesticated and civil societies ''tamed'' other cultures by adding their own culture and domestication to other cultures . Native American Indians , African Zulu etc , were all under developed in sentient evolution . If it were not for the evolution of sentience in some cultures , the world would still have barbarians , cannibals etc .
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
How true is your statement ?

100%

I think you are confusing the terms , domesticated and wild !

Domesticated and wild wasn't mentioned and does not effect taxonomy.

We only identify ourselves as human because we are domesticated

Nope, we identify as human because in the 13th century the church adopted the french word "humain" meaning belonging to man.
Which in turn comes from the latin humanus
 

ChieftheCef

Well-Known Member
The Razor Clam?
The Horseshoe Crab?

Welcome to RF
Just an FYI they're saying ****. Like real meaningful stuff, you and I just don't have the language to understand it. People don't usually just get things wrong, they just learn different words. Without the different people speaking different words we would go extinct, wouldn't be complex enough. It's necessary like fun.

I'm an ex atheist agonistic who learned to speak some of their words. I have found truths so true science is or has proved them that are so profoundly true. Just learn the lingo. At least in the effort to be in the position to say to destroy it. Everything's calming down, there's no more sati, no more wickermen, everything is calming down. To throw out the baby with the bath water is so out of place for people looking to expand their frame of reference. **mod edit**
 
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ChieftheCef

Well-Known Member
Humans are animal.

See my avatar, a 22,000 year old early modern human skull. There are marked evolutionai differences between a 22,000 human and a human of today.
The skull is about 10% larger than todays humans with a larger brain case, the bone is on average 10% thicker than todays humans with measurable thickening of brow ridges.. The skeleton also is markedly different. Yes humans have evolved in as little os 22000 years. In fact every single birth shows evolutionary advancement over its parents, not much, but over millions of births, enough to be noticeable. If you know what you are looking for.

Did you notice that? Cro magmon (early modern humans) had a bigger brain than todays humans, i wonder why?
The younger dryas extinction. Started our current era.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Just an FYI they're saying ****. Like real meaningful stuff, you and I just don't have the language to understand it. People don't usually just get things wrong, they just learn different words. Without the different people speaking different words we would go extinct, wouldn't be complex enough. It's necessary like fun.

I'm an ex atheist agonistic who learned to speak some of their words. I have found truths so true science is or has proved them that are so profoundly true. Just learn the lingo. At least in the effort to be in the position to say to destroy it. Everything's calming down, there's no more sati, no more wickermen, everything is calming down. To throw out the baby with the bath water is so out of place for people looking to expand their frame of reference. **mod edit**

I personally don't think you realise how deep and meaningful my comment was. *Mod edit* Until you learn what species have refused to evolve as my question answered succinctly then please keep your harassment to yourself
 
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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
The younger dryas extinction. Started our current era.

Did you read my post?

Who was talking about eras? Oh that's right, you with your compulsive harassment.

BTW, Humans have been around a lot longer than 12000 years.
 
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