What language did Adam and Eve speak?

[Disciple of Christ]

Wait, what?!

Last I checked, one does not need a theoretical or academic understanding or belief about why language came about to be able to gainfully use it.

Whereas... how do you reconcile saying the above, yet asking a question like:



Through the use of language?

Are we not discussing Adam and the language for which he spoke? If one believes there was an Adam then one would have the accept the story of the creator present with him. Language is distinct from other sounds, and are compiled and given meaning some how. How is it possible for common agreeance to come about in undersatnding? Who or what has the instruction manual and how is it applied?

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Are we not discussing Adam and the language for which he spoke? If one believes there was an Adam then one would have the accept the story of the creator present with him. Language is distinct from other sounds, and are compiled and given meaning some how. How is it possible for common agreeance to come about in undersatnding? Who or what has the instruction manual and how is it applied?

...you do realize you are speaking a language at this moment, right?

 

[Disciple of Christ]

...you do realize you are speaking a language at this moment, right?

Yes, but how are you or I able to comprehend one another. There has to be an encoding and decoding process. How was that established?

 

[Breathe]

Yes, but how are you or I able comprehend one another. There has to be an encoding and decoding process. How was that established?

Grammar?

 

[Disciple of Christ]

Grammar?

Yes, but all grammar is not the same and how were the rules for such determined?

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Yes, but how are you or I able to comprehend one another. There has to be an encoding and decoding process. How was that established?

...you did go to elementary school, right? Where you learned how to encode and decode English?

You seem to be jumping from the creation of a language to the method the brain uses to utilize language, so:

Language acquisition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes, but all grammar is not the same and how were the rules for such determined?

People create languages all the time, and therefore create the rules for them. No reason to assume this is any different than what was done in the past.

 

[Disciple of Christ]

...you did go to elementary school, right? Where you learned how to encode and decode English?

You seem to be jumping from the creation of a language to the method the brain uses to utilize language, so:

Language acquisition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is not language first created within the mind/brain and then conveyed outwardly. Ultimately, where did the instuctions come from for the brain to produce language?

 

[Breathe]

Yes, but all grammar is not the same and how were the rules for such determined?

They develop over time.

 

[Disciple of Christ]

...you did go to elementary school, right? Where you learned how to encode and decode English?

You seem to be jumping from the creation of a language to the method the brain uses to utilize language, so:

Language acquisition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



People create languages all the time, and therefore create the rules for them. No reason to assume this is any different than what was done in the past.

Language requires structure and order and even known languages have a basic premise from which they originally were derived. This evolotutionary process began somewhere. Where?

 

[Disciple of Christ]

They develop over time.

By chance?

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Language requires structure and order and even known languages have a basic premise from which they originally were derived. This evolotutionary process began somewhere. Where?

Are you positing it came from a deity?

 

[Disciple of Christ]

Are you positing it came from a deity?

Can we not agree this is a possibility seeing that the basic premise for this discussion began with Adam and what language he spoke?

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Can we not agree this is a possibility seeing that the basic premise for this discussion began with Adam and what language he spoke?

Considering the very OP is about the Garden of Eden, I don't see the point in even arguing whether Adam got his language from God.

If you wish to argue about the origin of language in general (which you seem to), then Genesis has no value.

 

[Disciple of Christ]

Considering the very OP is about the Garden of Eden, I don't see the point in even arguing whether Adam got his language from God.

If you wish to argue about the origin of language in general (which you seem to), then Genesis has no value.

The only reason I bring this up is because if God created language and then he divided the languages at the Tower of Babel. Then what difference does it make what language Adam spoke. Following this line of thought, I would think it was more likely a language that was further evolved than what we have today because we stiil have the rudimentary structure which enables us to translate other languages we were not raised with.

 

[Breathe]

By chance?

Not quite by chance.
I don't actually know how it occurs in any detail. It just, well, does. Humans need to speak to each other, it's hardwired into our brains as we are social animals.

If you want to see a language 'just happen', look at Nicaraguan Sign Language. It went from basic gestures to a full fledged language, through the motions of pidgin, creole, and then language.

 

[Disciple of Christ]

Not quite by chance.
I don't actually know how it occurs in any detail. It just, well, does. Humans need to speak to each other, it's hardwired into our brains as we are social animals.

If you want to see a language 'just happen', look at Nicaraguan Sign Language. It went from basic gestures to a full fledged language, through the motions of pidgin, creole, and then language.

Taking the premises that it just happens and we are hardwired then what does the hardwiring. Especially, when it comes to abstract concepts?

 

[Breathe]

Taking the premises that it just happens and we are hardwired then what does the hardwiring. Especially, when it comes to abstract concepts?

The brain?

 

[Disciple of Christ]

The brain?

Does the brain hardwire itself and if so where does it receive the instructions from?

 

[waitasec]

Taking the premises that it just happens and we are hardwired then what does the hardwiring. Especially, when it comes to abstract concepts?

our ability to remember things.

 

[Breathe]

Does the brain hardwire itself and if so where does it receive the instructions from?

The brain is hardwired to learn and use language because we are social animals.
It's probably to do with DNA, because evolved (if you're a creationist, humour me here) from social animals.
What do you mean, 'where does it receive instructions from'?