What made the Israelites so special as a people...?

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Andrea Pia Yates is a former resident of Houston, Texas, who confessed to drowning her five children in their bathtub on June 20, 2001. She had been suffering for some time with very severe postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis. She was represented by Houston criminal defense attorney George Parnham. Wikipedia

I know who she is. She said God told her to kill her kids. So did Abe. I know it hurts when we are told our ancestors did bad things. It doesn't have to mean we're bad too. We CAN evolve past what they were.

And did you leave the comment on my wall or whatever before or after you were told not to harass people?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Jews are probably Neanderthals. I don't care for most of the articles that I've seen this though, as most of them are deeply anti-Semitic. Given what we know of the current state of the world and that Jews have won a record number of Nobel Peace Prizes, I'd say it's probably a good thing that they keep themselves racially separated, and regular ppl have in fact caused more of the world's problems.

Total garbage, and racist as hell.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I'm undecided. I've had a few ideas, but they always turn out to be true of other peoples and you just don't see the same phenomenal results. So as a person who is open to possible answers, I'm asking you: What do yu think is the reason?

Cultural and social reasons. It's the whole "model immigrant" thing. You also see it with Indian and East Asian immigrant families in America. They are cultures that lean towards collectivism and put a high premium on academic achievement. Immigrant communities tend to be more tight-knit, too. It's kind of easy to explain the success of Jews in America when you look it at that way. You don't need supernatural or racist explanations.

 

[DustyFeet]

And did you leave the comment on my wall or whatever before or after you were told not to harass people?

it was before, report it if u think it's harassment

 

[DustyFeet]

We CAN evolve past what they were.

thank u, i have a lot of work to do on my self. i'm sorry for losing it.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Cultural and social reasons. It's the whole "model immigrant" thing. You also see it with Indian and East Asian immigrant families in America. They are cultures that lean towards collectivism and put a high premium on academic achievement. Immigrant communities tend to be more tight-knit, too. It's kind of easy to explain the success of Jews in America when you look it at that way. You don't need supernatural or racist explanations.

I've considered this, such as the case of successful Chinese immigrants. Chinese-Americans are more likely to be affluent than whites, for example. But you just don't have the same amazing percentages per capita that you have with the Jews. If it's something cultural, I think it's worth finding out exactly what it is, so that it can be immitated. It obviously goes beyond holding academics in high esteem.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I've considered this, such as the case of successful Chinese immigrants. Chinese-Americans are more likely to be affluent than whites, for example. But you just don't have the same amazing percentages per capita that you have with the Jews. If it's something cultural, I think it's worth finding out exactly what it is, so that it can be immitated. It obviously goes beyond holding academics in high esteem.

That is about cultural priorities. If money is your priority you have a better chance of ending up wealthy.

 

[2ndpillar]

That is about cultural priorities. If money is your priority you have a better chance of ending up wealthy.

I know many "Chinese" who have come to America as students. The ones I know do well because they work hard, are quiet, and trustworthy. While doing well has been a goal of the students, there seems to be an ongoing trend to find work that is fulfilling, that they enjoy, yet they continue to do well. On the other hand, the goal of the criminal class, or the liberal minded, is to become wealthy at the expense of others, and they generally do not work, are generally not trustworthy, are often loud, and generally wind up being wards of the state.

 

[metis]

On the other hand, the goal of the criminal class, or the liberal minded, is to become wealthy at the expense of others, and they generally do not work, are generally not trustworthy, are often loud, and generally wind up being wards of the state.

I honestly don't think you have a clue about what you call "liberals" as they tend to be pretty much the opposite of what you say about them. Also, if the best you can do is to create and then use stereotypes like the above, no wonder your conclusions are all too often off-the-wall. It's pretty much impossible to have a serious discussion when you use such tactics, which is why I normally don't read your posts.

Se la vie.

 

[2ndpillar]

I honestly don't think you have a clue about what you call "liberals" as they tend to be pretty much the opposite of what you say about them. Also, if the best you can do is to create and then use stereotypes like the above, no wonder your conclusions are all too often off-the-wall. It's pretty much impossible to have a serious discussion when you use such tactics, which is why I normally don't read your posts.

Se la vie.

I am sorry if you thought I was limiting liberal left's thinking to just socialism, whereas the state/beast (Revelation 13:4) is god. I didn't intend to limit their effect on the country. Their visceral hate of Trump, most notably shown by their trying to lynch Kavanaugh by means of lies, false witnessing, and witnessing by apparent mentally and morally compromised individuals seemed to display their wanting to hold onto the morally bankrupt position that women should be able to terminate the lives of their unborn children. The political liberal left's position of defending the anti law enforcement Antifa, and mob rule, is particularly repulsive. But then again, those who think they are "wise and intelligent" , the liberal elite educators, are left in the dark (Matthew 11:25).

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I know many "Chinese" who have come to America as students. The ones I know do well because they work hard, are quiet, and trustworthy. While doing well has been a goal of the students, there seems to be an ongoing trend to find work that is fulfilling, that they enjoy, yet they continue to do well. On the other hand, the goal of the criminal class, or the liberal minded, is to become wealthy at the expense of others, and they generally do not work, are generally not trustworthy, are often loud, and generally wind up being wards of the state.

Biased rubbish.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I am sorry if you thought I was limiting liberal left's thinking to just socialism, whereas the state/beast (Revelation 13:4) is god. I didn't intend to limit their effect on the country. Their visceral hate of Trump, most notably shown by their trying to lynch Kavanaugh by means of lies, false witnessing, and witnessing by apparent mentally and morally compromised individuals seemed to display their wanting to hold onto the morally bankrupt position that women should be able to terminate the lives of their unborn children. The political liberal left's position of defending the anti law enforcement Antifa, and mob rule, is particularly repulsive. But then again, those who think they are "wise and intelligent" , the liberal elite educators, are left in the dark (Matthew 11:25).

More biased rubbish.

 

[2ndpillar]

More biased rubbish.

Your argument is so compelling, that if your socialist/communist, liberal leader, who advocated 3rd trimester abortions, and supporting Antifa, and anti law open borders, with a swipe of a pen, Barrack Obama, that if he runs again, I will have to closely look at the ballot. In the meantime, the "nations"/Gentiles, are looking at being destroyed "completely", whereas Jacob/Israel will only suffer being "chastened justly" (Jeremiah 30:11).

 

[IndigoChild5559]

That is about cultural priorities. If money is your priority you have a better chance of ending up wealthy.

Like I said. This sort of explanation only goes so far.

 

[sense12]

Their cultural practices and sacrifices weren't similar. Abraham was selected for his faith. He was willing to sacrifice his son, knowing that Jehovah could resurrect him. So he was chosen to produce the people who would produce the Messiah, God's own son whom he was therefore willing to sacrifice. The offspring of Abraham were molded, as a nation of Laws to instruct them for a need of that Messiah. If the people had not inherited sin there would be no need of a sacrifice, they could have kept the law. If they were not aware of the Law they wouldn't know that they had sinned. So they were obviously not meant to keep it, only to learn from it.

For example, blood is the soul, the life of any living, breathing creature. Life belongs to the creator. Adam's sin caused all to inherit this sin, this missing of the mark. In order for there to be justice a worthy person, who, like Adam, could uphold the Law due to his absence of sin, could offer his then equal blood as suitable sacrifice in payment for Adam's blood. Much like when a person was found murdered outside of town and no one knew who the murderer was, so his blood couldn't be spilled for justice (eye for eye, tooth for tooth, soul for soul) then the nearest town had to sacrifice the blood of a bull. In this way the people learned of their need of a Messiah.

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[IndigoChild5559]

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I listened to this video for less than four minutes and the guy was talking about drinking his own urine, King James being a black guy, and the earth being flat. Three really good reasons to write him off as a nutter and forget the rest of the video.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Your argument is so compelling, that if your socialist/communist, liberal leader, who advocated 3rd trimester abortions, and supporting Antifa, and anti law open borders, with a swipe of a pen, Barrack Obama, that if he runs again, I will have to closely look at the ballot. In the meantime, the "nations"/Gentiles, are looking at being destroyed "completely", whereas Jacob/Israel will only suffer being "chastened justly" (Jeremiah 30:11).

Perhaps not not biased rubbish
but plain GOP weirdo.

 

[sealchan]

Who would, presumably, claim to believe in the same G-d.

I think the voice of the people in the Jewish Testament speaks for itself...does it not? God was their savior and their tormentor if the people didn't do what was right in God's eyes.

This shouldn't seem that ironic given what the Bible actually describes. Can we all live in the fantasy that we can look at ourselves through God's eyes and shake our heads when we stumble? No! When we stumble it hurts US! It is insincere to sit back and say "We always think God is good to us".

I don't believe anyone really feels that way.

 

[Hawkins]

What made the Israelites so special as a people if their cultural practices and sacrifices were so similar to the Egyptians in the Bible?

History made them special. They are the only ethnic group of people who can keep their custom and religion in the absence of a home land of their own. Whether they are special or not, they are successful carriers of God's messages.

It's almost the same way as how God chooses the prophets as His witnesses. The Jews as a whole was chosen to be His witnesses. They are the witnesses as good as being capable of keeping His Word across history even under the circumstance of without a homeland of their own, no other peoples can do this!

 

[tayla]

What made the Israelites so special as a people if their cultural practices and sacrifices were so similar to the Egyptians in the Bible?

They were not special. The Bible claims they were, but the Bible is fiction and written with a biased perspective to show they were special.