What made the Israelites so special as a people...?

[IndigoChild5559]

if you're referring to the people in israel today claiming to be Jewish as your people. You all are not the people of the Torah. The book you claim to worship

The Children of Israel aka the Jews exist all around the world. However, the bulk of us are either in Israel or the US. As I've stated, God never abrogated our covenant. And being sinful doesn't mean we stop being Children of Israel. Look how many times we were sinful in the sacred texts and yet we were still God's People, still Israel. So a Jew who is sinful is still a Jew, he is simply a sinful Jew. He doesn't get kicked out of the People of Israel. Goodness, even if he apostatizes and looses all his rights as a Jew, he is still technically a Jew. You can't be un-Jewed.

 

[Truth.Speaks]

It shouldn't surprise you that I am not interested in your verses from your Christian scriptures. Not that any of them say that God obliterated his covenant with Israel, but even if they did, it would have no authority.

As for your two references to the Tanakh, they speak of curses and punishments that God promises if we are not faithful. But never once do they speak of any ending of our covenant.

Deuteronomy is torah

 

[Truth.Speaks]

The Children of Israel aka the Jews exist all around the world. However, the bulk of us are either in Israel or the US. As I've stated, God never abrogated our covenant. And being sinful doesn't mean we stop being Children of Israel. Look how many times we were sinful in the sacred texts and yet we were still God's People, still Israel. So a Jew who is sinful is still a Jew, he is simply a sinful Jew. He doesn't get kicked out of the People of Israel. Goodness, even if he apostatizes and looses all his rights as a Jew, he is still technically a Jew. You can't be un-Jewed.

what im saying is you so called jewish people were never jews you are the amalekites a sect of edomites

 

[IndigoChild5559]

what im saying is you so called jewish people were never jews you are the amalekites a sect of edomites

ROTFL You can't be serious.

Please give your evidence.

 

[Truth.Speaks]

ROTFL You can't be serious.

Please give your evidence.

Deuteronomy 28:68
[68]And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt againe, with ships, by the way whereof I spake vnto thee, Thou shalt see it no more againe: and there ye shall bee sold vnto your enemies for bondmen, and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

that which the Israelites would see no more again is the land of israel, where we were being led too

so u gotta be rejecting torah to say yur a jew and your people are in israel today

 

[Truth.Speaks]

ROTFL You can't be serious.

Please give your evidence.

Exodus 4:6-7
[6]¶ And the Lord said furthermore vnto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosome. And he put his hand into his bosome: and when hee tooke it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snowe.
[7]And he said, Put thine hand into thy bosome againe. And hee put his hand into his bosome againe, and plucked it out of his bosome, and behold, it was turned againe as his other flesh.

for moses hand to turn leprous as snow or white means moses an israelite couldn't have been white in the first place like the jewish people today

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Deuteronomy 28:68
[68]And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt againe, with ships, by the way whereof I spake vnto thee, Thou shalt see it no more againe: and there ye shall bee sold vnto your enemies for bondmen, and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

that which the Israelites would see no more again is the land of israel, where we were being led too

so u gotta be rejecting torah to say yur a jew and your people are in israel today

You are not making sense. How does this verse say that Jews/Children of Israel are Amelakites? The verse doesn't even mention Amelakites.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Exodus 4:6-7
[6]¶ And the Lord said furthermore vnto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosome. And he put his hand into his bosome: and when hee tooke it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snowe.
[7]And he said, Put thine hand into thy bosome againe. And hee put his hand into his bosome againe, and plucked it out of his bosome, and behold, it was turned againe as his other flesh.

for moses hand to turn leprous as snow or white means moses an israelite couldn't have been white in the first place like the jewish people today

OMGosh! LOL this is sooooo racist

You are of course speaking of the Ashkenazim branch of Jewry, claiming that it is not truly Jewish. This is one of the anti-Semitic arguments that we have to deal with today -- ultimately it is an anti-zionist claim, that the Ashkenazim are not truly Jews and therefore have no genuine claim to the land of Israel.

It is absolute baloney. DNA evidence shows that in addition to the typical european markers, the Ashkenazim ALSO have the typical middle eastern marker of semites.

How can this happen? It happens because when people convert, they intermarry. The original convert may have had the genetics of a European (although by Jewish law they are 100% a child of Israel), but their children will, through their intermarriage, have Semitic lineage.

And really, you are ignoring the fact that even the convert themselves are adopted fully into Israel. Ruth was born a moabite, but died a Jew.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Not really. There is nothing special in following a false messiah.

I agree there is nothing special in following a false messiah.
To me in Scripture Jesus proved to be the foretold Messiah as foretold by Daniel at Daniel 9:24-27.
That does Not make Jesus a false messiah.
Over 5 centuries in advance the exact year as foretold in holy Scripture, the exact year of Messiah's appearance.
This being Messiah's arrival being measured in weeks of years, meaning that each ' week ' was 7 years long.
Thus, there would be 7 plus 62 of such weeks, making a total of 69 weeks of years.
This equals 483 years beginning that span of years when God's servant Nehemiah arrived in Jerusalem and began to rebuild Jerusalem.
(Persian history established that date as 455 BCE ( before our common era) - Nehemiah 2:1-5)
(Persian King Artaxerxes authorized Nehemiah to restore and rebuild Jerusalem - Nehemiah 2:1-8)
Scripture has Jesus baptized as Messiah in the year 29 CE (common era )
That matches exactly to Daniel 9:25.
Besides today's un-stable world (human society) parallels with past comparisons - Noah's day for one.
The time is ripe for the fullment of the 3rd chapter of Joel.
The symbolic ' stars ' ( men looked up to as stars ) will loose their shining position - Joel 3:15; 2:31
They shed No spiritual light but keep the world of mankind in spiritual darkness.- 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3.
This is why it will come as a big surprise when the the ' powers that be ' will be saying, "Peace and Security..."
This will prove false and will be the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14,9.
As it was a 'destructive judgement' for the violent people of Noah's day, and a 'rescue judgement' for Noah and family, so it will be for the humble meek who will inherit the Earth as per Psalms 37:9-11.

 

[Harel13]

Exodus 4:6-7
[6]¶ And the Lord said furthermore vnto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosome. And he put his hand into his bosome: and when hee tooke it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snowe.
[7]And he said, Put thine hand into thy bosome againe. And hee put his hand into his bosome againe, and plucked it out of his bosome, and behold, it was turned againe as his other flesh.

for moses hand to turn leprous as snow or white means moses an israelite couldn't have been white in the first place like the jewish people today

Really racist, but still cracked me up. Now, whether or not the Jews were originally of white skin, regardless - you can always get whiter, trust me. White skin isn't as white as, say, white paint.

 

[Rival]

Really racist, but still cracked me up. Now, whether or not the Jews were originally of white skin, regardless - you can always get whiter, trust me. White skin isn't as white as, say, white paint.

Or solid ice

 

[Harel13]

Or solid ice

There we go. We can always get whiter.

 

[RabbiO]

Not only were we unbelievably cute and adorable, not only did we have the best matzah ball soup recipes in the Fertile Crescent, but we were also the best ballroom dancers in that area of the world.

Amazing how many people seem to have stumbled across my 1+ year old post.

I suppose I should add just how remarkable the last item was.... given that the men and women were dancing separately.

 

[Rival]

Amazing how many people seem to have stumbled across my 1+ year old post.

I suppose I should add just how remarkable the last item was.... given that the men and women were dancing separately.

Sometimes when I'm bored I search a random word for a user and read their posts to see if I can learn anything. You, Augustus and Tumah have not escaped.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I agree there is nothing special in following a false messiah.
To me in Scripture Jesus proved to be the foretold Messiah as foretold by Daniel at Daniel 9:24-27.
That does Not make Jesus a false messiah.
Over 5 centuries in advance the exact year as foretold in holy Scripture, the exact year of Messiah's appearance.
This being Messiah's arrival being measured in weeks of years, meaning that each ' week ' was 7 years long.
Thus, there would be 7 plus 62 of such weeks, making a total of 69 weeks of years.
This equals 483 years beginning that span of years when God's servant Nehemiah arrived in Jerusalem and began to rebuild Jerusalem.
(Persian history established that date as 455 BCE ( before our common era) - Nehemiah 2:1-5)
(Persian King Artaxerxes authorized Nehemiah to restore and rebuild Jerusalem - Nehemiah 2:1-8)
Scripture has Jesus baptized as Messiah in the year 29 CE (common era )
That matches exactly to Daniel 9:25.
Besides today's un-stable world (human society) parallels with past comparisons - Noah's day for one.
The time is ripe for the fullment of the 3rd chapter of Joel.
The symbolic ' stars ' ( men looked up to as stars ) will loose their shining position - Joel 3:15; 2:31
They shed No spiritual light but keep the world of mankind in spiritual darkness.- 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3.
This is why it will come as a big surprise when the the ' powers that be ' will be saying, "Peace and Security..."
This will prove false and will be the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14,9.
As it was a 'destructive judgement' for the violent people of Noah's day, and a 'rescue judgement' for Noah and family, so it will be for the humble meek who will inherit the Earth as per Psalms 37:9-11.

• First, you are quoting a LOT of verses that have nothing to do with the messiah.
• Second, you are quoting verses from the Christian Scriptures, which mean nothing to me.
• Third, the Daniel prophecies mean nothing because we don't know when the weeks begin, or what time period they actually refer to. It's debated. AND it's one of the reasons that it was hotly debated whether Daniel should be added to canon (Daniel and Esther were the last to be added).

 

[Hawkins]

The same question as why do you need a media.

 

[rational experiences]

Special is always taught as superiority. The effects of radiation involved sciences proved that not only did it attack the body of the flesh of a human, it also changed their chemical brains.

Chemical mind imbalances and living in a phenomena caused irradiation condition is a studied concept named as a stigmata condition.....of being chosen to be sacrificed, which is a self idealized preaching of a human who says as a human I chose to be harmed.

Rationally we are all living naturally in a natural environment that supported our living healthy existence, so we should not be suffering any state as conditioned to the scientific knowledge of what a natural human life owns.

A balanced oxygen and water natural life in a bio form nearly water, as shared with a supportive Nature. So when Nature gets sacrificed as animals or tree life with a human life attacked/changed.....then a human says by incorrect mind conditions that they got chosen to be harmed....so as we are all innocent children and babies, that child mind conscious self cannot contend with the knowledge of being harmed as compared to anyone else.

If you cared to do a rational conscious, first owned natural condition before science statements that attacked us in UFO mass radiation pyramid temple fall out conditions.

How can an innocent same living mind and body contend with being harmed when others are not? As a rational thinking concept about why we express a non realistic review about self!

 

[Salvador]

Special is always taught as superiority. The effects of radiation involved sciences proved that not only did it attack the body of the flesh of a human, it also changed their chemical brains.

Chemical mind imbalances and living in a phenomena caused irradiation condition is a studied concept named as a stigmata condition.....of being chosen to be sacrificed, which is a self idealized preaching of a human who says as a human I chose to be harmed.

Rationally we are all living naturally in a natural environment that supported our living healthy existence, so we should not be suffering any state as conditioned to the scientific knowledge of what a natural human life owns.

A balanced oxygen and water natural life in a bio form nearly water, as shared with a supportive Nature. So when Nature gets sacrificed as animals or tree life with a human life attacked/changed.....then a human says by incorrect mind conditions that they got chosen to be harmed....so as we are all innocent children and babies, that child mind conscious self cannot contend with the knowledge of being harmed as compared to anyone else.

If you cared to do a rational conscious, first owned natural condition before science statements that attacked us in UFO mass radiation pyramid temple fall out conditions.

How can an innocent same living mind and body contend with being harmed when others are not? As a rational thinking concept about why we express a non realistic review about self!

Wow! UFO mass radiation pyramid temple fall out conditions? When and where did this occur?

 

[rational experiences]

Wow! UFO mass radiation pyramid temple fall out conditions? When and where did this occur?

In ancient times before modern day radiation fall out changes occurred, as increased fall out, seeing the UFO radiation mass was still witnessed throughout the history of stopping science, to science experimentation again with radio activity.....around about 33AD.

From Moses after the fact realization to the re birth of self human being male lost Genetics evaluated to be about 2BC or 2 AD.

Seeing that no scientist owns the state/condition of cold empty deep space.....you cannot use accounting nothing....so it was around about.

Deuteronomy 18:15-22 15The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him. 16For this is what you asked of the LORD your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly when you said, "Let us not hear the voice of the LORD our God nor see this great fire anymore, or we will die." 17The LORD said to me: "What they say is good. 18I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him. 19I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name. 20But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death." 21You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?" 22If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.

Acts 3:22 22For Moses said, 'The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own people; you must listen to everything he tells you.

Acts 7:37 37"This is the Moses who told the Israelites, 'God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your own people.'

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Special is always taught as superiority.

this is just not always true. Take the phrase Special Education. These are educational classes for children who are at risk due to different disabilities.

There is also the use of "special" to simply designate rarity or uniqueness, as in every snowflake or individual being special simply because it is different from all the others. We wouldn't want the meadow filled with clones of the same flower. Think of the variables in an equation. Each variable is significant -- remove any one of them, and it changes the entire equation.