I am not Christian no, so would it be possible that you relate to the black pagan woman on the pagan forum site this point, the Kiowa Apache or Crow or Mescalero Apache or in deed any of the First Nations are not pagan they have no white breaded, white robed , colossal height white man as their god as Zeus, Apollo or Hades, thee name pagan as you will know was given to the non believers of Christian faith during the Christian persecutions, the conquistadors, the pilgrims or even settlers to the Indians who condemned the Indian as savage, in truth the name pagan belongs to the believers of the gods and goddesses of Greece and Rome (eastern Europe) not to the pre Christian, pre Latino, pre Hispanic pre settlers , pre pilgrim America(s) so that means the bone carved choker and any such likes plains Indian symbolization made of bone which caused the confusion of been seen as pagan are not pagan symbols , I know some of you know of this black pagan on the pagan site woman slowly gathering clout and not knowing enough while say ****, American (s) Indian religions are not pagan.