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What makes humans so special?

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I said space, not planet. But there are planets out there and some moons that can possibly be terraformed, especially with increased solar output.
And we are travelling space, in baby steps but we have a few years left until earth becomes . (Except we are doing it ourselves.)
You really think earth will be inhabitable in a few years?
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
I said space, not planet. But there are planets out there and some moons that can possibly be terraformed, especially with increased solar output.
And we are travelling space, in baby steps but we have a few years left until earth becomes inhabitable. (Except we are doing it ourselves.)

If we can't manage one biosphere? How the hell are we going to manage to not only terraform another location, but also keep it a healthy environ?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Humans have an enormous destructive power.

But also a very big heart.
What food could this deer have found in a snowy winter? And yet, these deers periodically visit this village in Abruzzo, and find some food thanks to good-hearted humans.

 

Heyo

Veteran Member
If we can't manage one biosphere? How the hell are we going to manage to not only terraform another location, but also keep it a healthy environ?
"We" can't manage one biosphere because "we" includes a lot of dumb and selfish people. Those are not the people who are going to live on a space station or terraformed planet.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No. No other species has generated an environmental collapse and mass extinction -- and in just a million years or so. We're a planetary infection.

A species that destroys its host (Earth), is not a successful species.
I'm sure the earth will still be here. Just very different.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
People are in an important way the sum of all other life forms. There are people who are "snakes in the grass", "friendly like dogs", "cat like" and so forth.

As far as destructive goes, here's 10 animals with people as #10 10 Animals That Are Bad for the Environment

Humans have the potential, often unrealized, of rising above our destructive animal natures. Some succeed. Many fail. But to me it's the next step in human evolution
The wild animals were never bad for the environment. They are bad for the human-altered environment

A couple of these animals are man-made products. The rest lived harmoniously and harmlessly till man altered their environment or moved them to a new one.
"Bad for the environment" doesn't equate to harmful to human interests, or inconvenient to us.
 

Suave

Simulated character
When God created humans, he created the most destructive and killing species that has ever existed.

We kill, destroy, pollute, drive species to extinction, destroy habitats, etc more than any other species that ever existed.

For example.... We have killed many more millions of humans than the covid virus but think nothing of it.

Why would an all knowing God create something he knew would be so deadly and destructive?

Please let us consider how we very well might be created in God's image as us being the simulated ancestors programmed by a future post-human generation,

Some physicists have proposed a method for testing if we are in a numerical simulated cubic space-time lattice Matrix or simulated universe with an underlying grid.
[1210.1847] Constraints on the Universe as a Numerical Simulation

Based on the assumption that there'd be finite computational resources, a simulated universe would be performed by dividing up the space-time continuum into individually separate and distinctive points. Analogous to mini-simulations that lattice-gauge theorists conduct to construct nuclei based on Quantum Chromodynamics, observable effects of a grid-like space-time have been studied from these computer simulations which use a 3-D grid to model how elementary particles move and collide with each other. Anomalies found in these simulations suggest that if we are in a simulation universe with an underlying grid, then there'd be various amounts of high energy cosmic rays coming at us from each direction; but if space is continuous, then there'd be high energy cosmic rays coming at us equally from every direction.

High Energy Physics - Phenomenology
Constraints on the Universe as a Numerical Simulation
Silas R. Beane, Zohreh Davoudi, Martin J. Savage
(Submitted on 4 Oct 2012 (v1), last revised 9 Nov 2012 (this version, v2))

An anisotropic distribution of ultra-high-energy cosmic rays would be consistent with the simulation hypothesis,

In the study, published September 22,2017 in the journal Science, the researchers gathered over ten years of data taken with the Pierre Auger Observatory to determine whether high-energy cosmic rays were hitting Earth equally from all directions. They are not!

The proof is out there: A Matrix based structured simulated origin for cosmic rays!

Our Universe Is A Simulation - Here's How It's Rendered


 
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Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
There's a lot of animals and insects that expend waste and toxify environments.

Like I said we are no different.
Their waste is part of the ecosystem. It's not pollution. It doesn't toxify. It's a needed resource.

Everything depends on everything else. Everything works together and regulates the whole biome. Everything recycles through the system.

We are a species like no other that ever existed. We've removed ourselves from the system. We've bred way beyond the planet's carrying capacity. We've destroyed ecosystems other organisms depend on. Species are becoming extinct at an enormous rate. All natural systems are collapsing.
 
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