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What makes you Evil and why it's required.

nightwraith666

New Member
My opinions on the matter: Life is the highest value, reason the highest virtue. You can't do anything good or evil without being alive and you can't figure anything out except through reason. Good is what you value, evil is what opposes that which you value. Death would be the ultimate non-value, lack of value while stupidity would be the ultimate vice.

Thanks!

nightwraith666
 

blackout

Violet.
I pretty much agree with what has already been said. I don't believe in good or evil as an objective absolute. If people were to describe me as evil, it would be for their own subjective reasons.

*Edit* damn, just realised this was in the Setian DIR, my apologies.

Nah yer fine honey. You know the DIR guidelines.

Liked your last statement.
People always see, as they are inclined to see, don't they. ;)
 
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Eschatas

Member
Not a troll, but some of your posts definitely caught my attention for either being pandering or kind of icky. It struck me mostly because those are not what I expected from someone claiming the kinds of title you're tossing around nor does it match my with the typical class I have experienced with Setians in the past.
 

Valor

Active Member
Yes, my thread has wondered off topic. However, i find no harm in flirting unless it borderlines harassment to which i don't see here.

Listen, if we begin to take ourselves too seriously we then harbor the potential to regress because it begins to put the blinders on.

We, as S/setians strive to fight against the Vice known as Narcissism and I'll Quote Webb, Because the Left Hand Path focuses on the Self there is a sad tendency to see the Self as an object of Worship. This is as useful as if a sculptor began to worship clay. The Initiate guards against this with Humor, willingness to apologize and asking himself the question about any bad situation he/she finds themselves in "how did my actions contribute to this jam?"

My personal point/view is this: We can not expect ourselves to be flawlessly robotic in every action or situation we S/setians find ourselves in. I often use flirting and humor as a way to filter through the BS and find it effective. There is a time and place for, what i call, the Setian Sentinel mind and actions to make haste. This forum doesn't require it 24,7.

Thank you.
 
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Sireal

Setian
Not a troll, but some of your posts definitely caught my attention for either being pandering or kind of icky. It struck me mostly because those are not what I expected from someone claiming the kinds of title you're tossing around nor does it match my with the typical class I have experienced with Setians in the past.

Typical class of Setians, lmao!
I've met a couple hundred and there's not a typical one in the bunch. Its a good thing this is a polite forum. "icky" good solid description that. How about you say something worth listening too instead of ad hominem attacks? Tacky!
Maybe you should post your "expectations" so we know what to deliver, wait what makes you worthy of such attn? so far- Nothing!

So how do we have a good discussion when these cheezy psychic vamps/trolls, whatever, keep showing up sounding exactly like the last one.
There's likely some long forgotten occultozoid nincompoop generator out there that was buried for thousands of years and was recently discovered by a failed wanna-be and will churn these things out until the world drowns in inanity..."this is how the f**kin world ends- man, not with a bang~ but a whimper!" well maybe not.. but something should be done to screen the forum and keep useless posters from creeping in.

I think Magister Adams should have mod status here, if he wants it? or me but I'm probably not as nice.

there's nothing funny about a Clown after midnight :jester5:
 

Sireal

Setian
"ἐσχάτας, ὅτι ἐν αὐταῖς ἐτελέσθη ὁ θυμὸς τοῦ θεοῦ"

AND I saw another sign in heaven, great and "marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God"- Rev. 15:1

and whats that about? looks cool in Greek but your on a LHP forum here.
 

blackout

Violet.


"Tacky" always makes me laugh.

*UV thinks perhaps she laughs too much to be a "serious" Setian*

:jester5:

Humor can take some very interesting turns.
Sometimes humor can be the catalyst that Xepers something tricky.
Humor can test and reveal, and refine you.

Humor can melt ice.
Make people laugh honestly at themSelves, together.
Show us our flaws and our strengths.
Break down our sense of (inflated) "self importance",
break down other's perceptions re. our sense of Self Importance.

Sometimes humor can build a high degree of tention and release,
like a good piece of music,
like a high energy jazz solo,
you don't know where it's going to go,
but you go with it.

Taking something that makes you a little uncomfortable,
and crafting a MOST EXCELLENT response,
is a MOST important part of the ART of Your BEing... and Your Becoming.

If you fight it, instead of riding it....
well it's like insisting on "strict classical lines"
in the midst of a Greatful Dead solo.

If you can't find a way to call someone out
on your perception of their tackiness
in a clever, humorous way...
in the midst of a humorous discussion....
you only serve to make yourself stand out like a rigid stick (in the mud).
(or someone with their own "serious" agenda/s)

Simply inserting yourself to call someone "tacky",
or criticize their style of "humor" or "interaction" or ??
in the midst of a larger exchange (which you ignore)
is ... well... tacky.
At least a clever, response of dry humor,
will earn you some Higher intelligence respect points.

I hardly feel this should need to be explained
to any "serious" Setian.
Or perhaps, I mySelf am not serious enough for the title.
 
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Sireal

Setian
Violette, as is your way, you bring Balance to the Force :)
Someone once told me that -those who cannot laugh do not get a seat at the Devils table, or something to that effect. Anyway I was being a total jerk at the time...but I was Right godamit!! and learned a really valuable lesson about not taking myself too seriously all the time.

Mirth is good, thanks for the reminder.

The thinkers of the world should by rights be guardians of the world's mirth.
Agnes Repellier
 

blackout

Violet.
You take yourSelf completely seriously,
without taking yourself seriously at all.

This general formula of "all and none"
The diachotomy of "both and neither"
is ... in my own experience and estemation
a NECESSARY and intrinsic ...
understanding...
way of BEing ...
for any Sorcerer/Magus etc etc.

For me it is necessary to the very foundation of working a magick.
I believe completely, without believing at all.

This is my own insight though.
(the general diachotomy probably formed many years back
by the Carlos Casteneda series)

For me it is foundational.
You can't "hang on to ... things, ideas... as if they ARE you... or *make you*"
Or you will never Xeper.
You will never attain the freefall necessary to the Paradigm shift.
And taboos (in even their sneakiest forms) will always hold you captive.

Sometimes you must be without being...
or
Laugh, without laughing.
For the sake of a Higher Magic/k.
 
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blackout

Violet.
*thinks of Don Genero*

*grins*

If Don Genero wasn't the PERFECT example of
BRILLIANT EVIL HUMOR INCARNATE...
for the sake of his innitiates/apprentices...
I don't know who would be.

If you haven't read the Casteneda books,
You have missed out on some WONDERFUL Nagual stories.

Those books REALLY used to make me laugh.
Especially the ones that highlighted Don Genero.
Funny, Evil stuff.

There. Now... we are back on topic. :flirt:

:D

I mean...
:devil:
 
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KHPR

Social Meritocratist
"ἐσχάτας, ὅτι ἐν αὐταῖς ἐτελέσθη ὁ θυμὸς τοῦ θεοῦ"

AND I saw another sign in heaven, great and "marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God"- Rev. 15:1

and whats that about? looks cool in Greek but your on a LHP forum here.

My favorite psalm to ask Christians about is 137:9
"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones"

Stones in the bible means rock or testicles. So you know, I'm just saying.

Xeper,
Magister Robert Adams
 
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