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What may be reasons for God to call or invite the world to worship Himself

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
What to various views of God boil down to as to how they call the world to worship
and if they do not make a call to the world to come to God what the call is and how they do it?

Center verse of the Bible is the short two verse invitation (Psalm 117) to the world to praise God and worship based on the great goodness seen in his He treats His people and how that is everlasting, further sweetening the deal. How might other views do this?

Discussion guide week 12 - Psalm 117
 

proudpagan

Member
What to various views of God boil down to as to how they call the world to worship
If thats the case then God becomes nothing more than a praise-loving dictator suffering from superiority-complex. It proves that God is inconsistent. He changes His habits. That is why since beginninglessness God was all alone, but then He suddenly thought of creating us to worship him this is retarded af .

Let us say, He decided to create us at point T1 in time. Now since time has no beginning and God was always present, hence time T1 or any other time T2, T3 etc are equidistant from origin of time which is infinity away. So if He can change his mood at time T1, there is no reason why He cannot change His mood at other time-points like T2, T3 etc. Also, there is no guarantee that He did not create and destroy us or other species at other times BEFORE time T1 of this creation.

Now all religions that claim that Allah / Christian God created us so that we could worship Him also believe that Abrahmic God is perfect. Now if he is perfect, it means that at ALL points in time, He is equally perfect and operates as per the SAME laws. Perfection implies that there can be NO single-point inconsistency in God’ habits.

THUS, if God/Allah/Ishwar created us at time T1, He HAS to keep creating us at other time periods also IF He is perfect. Now He cannot create us twice! So if He creates us, He has to also destroy us so as to create us again.

Now if he continues to create and destroy us, how can He ensure that we worship Him when we have been destroyed. This means that either mood of God fluctuates with time, OR, He has NOT created us for worship.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
If thats the case then God becomes nothing more than a praise-loving dictator suffering from superiority-complex. It proves that God is inconsistent. He changes His habits. That is why since beginninglessness God was all alone, but then He suddenly thought of creating us to worship him this is retarded af .

Let us say, He decided to create us at point T1 in time. Now since time has no beginning and God was always present, hence time T1 or any other time T2, T3 etc are equidistant from origin of time which is infinity away. So if He can change his mood at time T1, there is no reason why He cannot change His mood at other time-points like T2, T3 etc. Also, there is no guarantee that He did not create and destroy us or other species at other times BEFORE time T1 of this creation.

Now all religions that claim that Allah / Christian God created us so that we could worship Him also believe that Abrahmic God is perfect. Now if he is perfect, it means that at ALL points in time, He is equally perfect and operates as per the SAME laws. Perfection implies that there can be NO single-point inconsistency in God’ habits.

THUS, if God/Allah/Ishwar created us at time T1, He HAS to keep creating us at other time periods also IF He is perfect. Now He cannot create us twice! So if He creates us, He has to also destroy us so as to create us again.

Now if he continues to create and destroy us, how can He ensure that we worship Him when we have been destroyed. This means that either mood of God fluctuates with time, OR, He has NOT created us for worship.

On the other hand, If God is the source of ultimate happiness, God may be the only thing that can lovingly call to the world to come to himself

C. S. Lewis’s answer to the dilemma of why God, in demanding that he be praised, "was not like an old vain woman seeking compliments"
Why God Is Not Vain to Seek Praise | Desiring God
 

Muslim-UK

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
We were created with free will to worship the Creator and placed on Earth as a test to determine our place in the hereafter. GOD created Angels that do not have free will, they worship Him constantly and perfectly. He has zero need for our worship, as we are far from ever being equal to Angels, rather the worship is for our benefit alone, brings us closer to Him and makes us God conscious, worship isn't simply pray 5 times a day, it's constantly remembering God and striving to be a better person. A worshipper does their best to follow His guidance and not to transgress the limits set.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
We were created with free will to worship the Creator and placed on Earth as a test to determine our place in the hereafter. GOD created Angels that do not have free will, they worship Him constantly and perfectly. He has zero need for our worship, as we are far from ever being equal to Angels, rather the worship is for our benefit alone, brings us closer to Him and makes us God conscious, worship isn't simply pray 5 times a day, it's constantly remembering God and striving to be a better person. A worshipper does their best to follow His guidance and not to transgress the limits set.

I agree worship is constant. Since it si reformation 500, the reformers had a phrase 'CORUM DEO' before the face of God. We live and exist before the face of God always and should remember it.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I see the video, and I feel it is misleading about the nature of worship. God is omnipresent. When I treat you kindly I am treating God kindly. When I praise you I praise God. That is how this should work.
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
What to various views of God boil down to as to how they call the world to worship
and if they do not make a call to the world to come to God what the call is and how they do it?

Center verse of the Bible is the short two verse invitation (Psalm 117) to the world to praise God and worship based on the great goodness seen in his He treats His people and how that is everlasting, further sweetening the deal. How might other views do this?

Discussion guide week 12 - Psalm 117
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Cuz God has the largest ego in the universe. It's huuuuuuuge.
 

Super Universe

Defender of God
What to various views of God boil down to as to how they call the world to worship
and if they do not make a call to the world to come to God what the call is and how they do it?

Center verse of the Bible is the short two verse invitation (Psalm 117) to the world to praise God and worship based on the great goodness seen in his He treats His people and how that is everlasting, further sweetening the deal. How might other views do this?

Discussion guide week 12 - Psalm 117

Ideas have to be given to humanity. Advanced and complicated ideas are always misunderstood but over time you will realize the truth. The idea of worship was given to humans so that you would eventually understand how the universe works.

You have to return energy to God. In heaven this energy is called love. As a human your ability to return energy to God is insignificant, barely more than nothing. As you ascend to heaven you will be taught how to be much more efficient at it.
 
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