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What Philosophical Questions Stump You Most

Shadow Wolf

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How words connect to reality is a mystery.
It's not really a mystery because we connect a concept to an object through words. This happens because we are social animals whose very survival depends on our ability to communicate. Red is inherently a meaningless word, but because our brains have a highly developed ability for communication, I understand what you mean when you say to pick out a red ball. It's really no mystery.
 

raw_thought

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To say that we are social animals is not an explanation . It would be like asking, how does a car engine work and someone answers, because we are social animals that require transportation.
 

raw_thought

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I ageee with post 77. My point is not that we cannot communicate with language. Its that how concepts can attach to reality is a deep mystery.
 

Shadow Wolf

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To say that we are social animals is not an explanation . It would be like asking, how does a car engine work and someone answers, because we are social animals that require transportation.
It is an explanation. We have evolved as social animals, our brains are hardwired for communication, and without our brain's ability to attach a word, or sound, or symbol, to a concept we probably wouldn't be able to function as a society, we wouldn't be able to teach others how to use tools, and our survival rate would be much, much lower. You're trying to say this is a mystery, but it's not because it's all in our brain. We are capable of abstract thought, and as social animals we are extremely dependent upon being able to attach words to concepts and objects. There really isn't much else to explain unless you delve deeper into the course of the evolution of our brain and social traits.
Really, it's the simplified version similar to answering the question of how does an engine work by saying "physics."
 

raw_thought

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So if I ask,how does a car engine work ? A legitimate answer is, because we use them for transportation?
The question was, how do concepts attach to reality. The question was not, is the fact that words attach to reality useful?
 

raw_thought

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I would hate to have you as a teacher !!! So if I asked a legitimate question such as, how does a car engine work? You would answer, "physics ".
If I asked," Why does the earth go around the sun. You would answer ,"physics"!
 

raw_thought

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Not only is the question, "how do concepts attach to reality " unanswered ,its that it appears unanswerable ! Note that I am not saying that words do not attach to reality .I am saying that our weak homined brains do not have the ability to answer the question .
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
So if I ask,how does a car engine work ? A legitimate answer is, because we use them for transportation?
That's not at all a legit answer to the question, but an answer to the question of why we have them.
The question was, how do concepts attach to reality.
Because we evolved as social animals, which gave our brains the ability to attach abstract concepts and apply them to the world around us. It because of this I can say things like "dasein" or "spectacle of the scaffold" and the terms could be elaborated on and fleshed out by the authors and understood by students of philosophy.
If I asked," Why does the earth go around the sun. You would answer ,"physics"!
That is the simplified answer. Of course a deeper answer would require explanations of gravity and relativity, but the most simple answer that is still correct is physics.
Not only is the question, "how do concepts attach to reality " unanswered ,its that it appears unanswerable !
Only because you want it go unanswered, and want it to be unanswerable. But the facts are the answer lies in the evolution of the human brain (actually at least the mammal brain, because we are not the only animals capable of attaching words to objects).
 

raw_thought

Well-Known Member
It is not because I want the question to go unanswered ,it is because it is unanswered .
So Darwin, could have edited his "origin of species " to 3 words ,"improvement facilitates survival ". Fundamentalists think that was Darwin's entire argument. If it was (it isn't ) then they would be right . Evolution does not explain life. Darwin actually explained the sophistication of life.
 

raw_thought

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You keep repeating sillyness.
So the explanation as to HOW do concepts attach to reality is that it helps us survive (is useful ). There is a difference between asking why something is true and how it is true.
Asking HOW does a car engine work is different then asking WHY did we create such a thing (a car engine).
 

raw_thought

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The question ,"how do concepts attach to reality"? Is unanswerable . At least for our hominid brains.
The question of this thread was, what philosophical questions stump you the most . The question that stumps me (and everyone ) is, How do concepts attach to reality.. Nagel wrote a tiny book of philosophy that revcealed how difficult such a question is.
 

McBell

Unbound
The question ,"how do concepts attach to reality"? Is unanswerable . At least for our hominid brains.
The question of this thread was, what philosophical questions stump you the most . The question that stumps me (and everyone ) is, How do concepts attach to reality.. Nagel wrote a tiny book of philosophy that revcealed how difficult such a question is.
Disliking the answer is not the same as not being answerable.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
So the explanation as to HOW do concepts attach to reality is that it helps us survive (is useful ).
Because our brains allow us to. If you want a thorough and fully fleshed out answer, go study psychology, neurology, and other areas that pertain to the brain, or at least go to a library and read up on it. Or check around on the internet to learn how the brain works (which is through electrical impulses and neurochemicals).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_processing_in_the_brain
I was going to quote some stuff from that article, but I ended up quoting so much it would just be better if you read the entire page.
 

raw_thought

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See posts 79 and its continuation 81. That explains why the question,"how do concepts attach to reality" is unanswerable .
 

McBell

Unbound
See posts 79 and its continuation 81. That explains why the question,"how do concepts attach to reality" is unanswerable .
This is not for skwim, it is beyond his comprehension skills. But to sum up my points.
How words connect to reality is a mystery.
Why? Bexause words have nothing in common with concepts and concepts have nothing in common with reality. Suppose I try to explain what an elephant is by handing you an apple. Since they have nothing in common, I have not explained to you what an elephant is. Imagine a map. How does it inform us of the landscape ? Because it has something in common with the landscape. The shape of the lines on the map are similar to the shape of the land.
However ,lets provisionally (temporarily assume that the absurd idea that conxepts resemble reality is true) take the common sense theory how concepts attach to reality. Wittgenstein used the colored balls in a bag thought experiment to show that even then, we have no explanation as to how concepts attach to reality. I have a bag full of colored balls. Red, blue, green etc. I tell you to pick out a red one. The common sense theory about how this is possible is that you hear the word "red"

search your mind dor the concept "red" and then match that up with the red ball. ( BTW if your concept of red has nothing in common with the actual color eedthen how can you match yhem?) . However , that cant be true. As Witt said, suppose I ask you to imagine a red patch. What do you do? Search your mindfor a concept " red"? Obviously ,this entails an infinte eegeess and so does not explain how we connected the conxept eed with the red ball.

no they don't.
Especially given ShadowWolfs explanation...
 
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