What role does chastity play in your religion?

[amorphous_constellation]

I don't really see a point in it. I can theorize about things involving monasticism, asceticism, and self-denial though if you want, but in reality these things can sometimes be of nominal worth.

I think these types of things probably started with the earliest spiritual beliefs, either as some kind of method of control, or because the practice actually was thought to raise consciousness somehow, however the exact details about all that are all just speculative.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I think these types of things probably started with the earliest spiritual beliefs,

I highly doubt that. Notions of chastity seem pretty new in history.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

I highly doubt that. Notions of chastity seem pretty new in history.

From "Germania," by Tacitus, a Roman historian writing about 1st century German culture:

"The loss of chastity meets with no indulgence; neither beauty, youth, nor wealth will procure the culprit a husband. No one in Germany laughs at vice, nor do they call it the fashion to corrupt and to be corrupted. Still better is the condition of those states in which only maidens are given in marriage, and where the hopes and expectations of a bride are then finally terminated. They receive one husband, as having one body and one life, that they may have no thoughts beyond, no further-reaching desires, that they may love not so much the husband as the married state. To limit the number of their children or to destroy any of their subsequent offspring is accounted infamous, and good habits are here more effectual than good laws elsewhere."

 

[amorphous_constellation]

Also Lvciter, recall the armor of Brynhild which Sigurd cuts off with a sword. What kind of symbol might that be? She "vowed never to marry a man who knew fear."

 

[amorphous_constellation]

Also recall the Jewish Essenes who were most likely chaste, the Gnostics who stopped existing because of reproductive stigma, all this probably coming from the Pythagoreans with their proto-relgious proto-monastic ideas. India I've read has valued chastity, Buddhism has the notion, who knows how far back it goes.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

By "new", I mean about a few thousand years old.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

By "new", I mean about a few thousand years old.

Recorded western history does not extend far beyond that, point being it is not documented when many practices spiritual or cultural etc. actually began and how or why. Therefore one must theorize, basically.

And the German people Tacitus wrote of were of course 100% pagan in the 1st century, and who knows how far back their cultural practices went before that.

 

[DawudTalut]

I mean...is it seen as something positive or something negative?
I don't mean only premarital chastity.
I mean for example...what people think about those people who decide to be chaste for all their life, like priests and nuns.

Peace be on you.
1) Marriage is essential part in Islam.
[Holy Quran ch25:v55] And He it is Who has created man from water, and has made for him kindred by descent and kindred by marriage; and thy Lord is All- Powerful.

2) Chastity is required of all human faculties, not only of reproductive system.

[17:33] [17:33] And come not near unto adultery; surely, it is a foul thing and an evil way.

[17,37] And follow not that of which thou hast no knowledge. Verily, the ear and the eye and the heart — all these shall be called to account.

[66:12][66:12] And Allah sets forth for those who believe the example of the wife of Pharaoh when she said, ‘My Lord! build for me a house with Thee in the Garden; and deliver me from Pharaoh and his work, and deliver me from the wrongdoing people;’

[66:13] And the example of Mary, the daughter of ‘Imran, who guarded her private parts — so We breathed into him of Our Spirit — and she fulfilled in her person the words of her Lord and His Books and was one of the obedient.


AL-QUDDUS (The Holy) IS AN ATTRIBUTE OF ALLAH, HE LIKE HUMAN TO BE PURE.
[62:2] Whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth glorifies Allah, the Sovereign, the Holy, the Mighty, the Wise.

[62:3] He it is Who has raised among the Unlettered people a Messenger from among themselves who recites unto them His Signs, and purifies them, and teaches them the Book and wisdom, although they had been, before, in manifest misguidance;

[62:4] And among others from among them who have not yet joined them. He is the Mighty, the Wise.

 

[Willamena]

I also meant men. In fact that's the reason why I have no sexual life.

Because people are homely?? That's why you're chaste?

 

[Willamena]

Well, its not compulsory that the women who is unwillingly chaste, think of sex all day.

It's not even practical.

 

[Willamena]

2) Chastity is required of all human faculties, not only of reproductive system.

Out of curiosity, by whose standards is the chastity of faculties measured?

 

[Estro Felino]

Because people are homely?? That's why you're chaste?

I agree that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
But If I have to be objective an impartial, it is obvious that nature has been generous to some people and less fair to others.
This implies that some people have more chances to be liked, and consequently to have a sex life.

 

[DawudTalut]

Out of curiosity, by whose standards is the chastity of faculties measured?

Peace be on you. By Allah's commandments.

 

[Heim]

I agree that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
But If I have to be objective an impartial, it is obvious that nature has been generous to some people and less fair to others.
This implies that some people have more chances to be liked, and consequently to have a sex life.

as for your 2nd question, the answer is yes

I agree. You can think of it as the sexual market. The ideas of attractiveness (for example) that are passed on in society function as a standard. Each person's relative position to the attractiveness standard determines their market value. A higher value on the sexual market, offers more possibilities for sexual exchange.

 

[Renji]

I mean...is it seen as something positive or something negative?
I don't mean only premarital chastity.
I mean for example...what people think about those people who decide to be chaste for all their life, like priests and nuns.

Since I don't have any religion, I guess 'chastity' or celibacy is a convenient way to save money, having no family to raise and stuff like that. In other words, being practical.

 

[arthra]

I mean...is it seen as something positive or something negative?
I don't mean only premarital chastity.
I mean for example...what people think about those people who decide to be chaste for all their life, like priests and nuns.

Baha'is have no formal orders of monastics. Nor do we have priests.. Marriage is encouraged... Chastity is also valued... by that meaning chaste thoughts and faithfulness in marriage to your spouse...sexual relations outside marriage is forbidden.

Shoghi Effendi wrote:

"The chosen ones of God ... should not look at the depraved condition of the society in which they live, nor at the evidences of moral degradation and frivolous conduct which the people around them display. They should not content themselves merely with relative distinction and excellence. Rather they should fix their gaze upon nobler heights by setting the counsels and exhortations of the Pen of Glory as their supreme goal. Then it will be readily realized how numerous are the stages that still remain to be traversed and how far off the desired goal lies — a goal which is none other than exemplifying heavenly morals and virtues."

.(From a letter dated 30 October 1924 written by Shoghi Effendi to the Local Spiritual Assembly of Tihrán, translated from the Persian)

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

There is a difference between the two words
Chastity and virginity
Chastity term that includes both men and women
Because chastity means not having sex out of wedlock
And also not wanting to be the meaning in the attack on the property of others
The conviction and acceptance
And also in sex
Because the man abstain from sex before forensic link Igtbr chastity than men
A woman and also practiced chastity not to exercise any sexual relationship before marriage
Because of the diversity of configuration
Van Alemraep have sex before marriage
By removing virginity
Be known as the man
You can not know you is chaste or unchaste
But virginity , especially in women
Because the removal of virginity before marriage mean it's not a chaste
For this , the standard of chastity in women is the hymen
In modern times this has been overcome through surgery operations and this is common in East communities
And either of the religious aspect
Van chastity in Christianity is the religion of these kits
Even in the absence of clear texts
Because Mary, who say it's a virgin
In a sense it was a Packer until the end of her life
For this is the tradition of the Virgin Mary from the requirements of this religion
That is why women's religious orders have emerged
Tradition to the Virgin Mary
But tradition is not binding
Rather it should be a choice and desire
As for the men , and their example of Jesus , who did not marry in his life and did not **** as Christians we believe
For this is the tradition of Christ requirements of this religion also
For this , the emergence of a tradition not to marry and be considered binding to the monks and priests , especially in the Catholic doctrine of this measurement
Because some Christian denominations do not have this tradition

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

This does not mean that Christianity Tamer chastity in absolute but restricted within the limits of the marital relationship
They are not considered out of chastity
Chastity because when the marital bond is not to be continuous sexual act outside of wedlock
Chastity is here in the sense of commitment and acceptance of having sex with the wife only
This includes men and Alemraep
This is a Christian concept , according to know him
And there are also social traditions that are handed down from one generation to another
I am from the community is east of the national trend Chaldean Catholic doctrine
Terms of virginity is the first marriage for Mrah
Because marrying a girl who is not a Packer is a shame in this society in general
But this girl is keen to maintain her virginity to the moment of marriage
So here mixed religion with tradition and become social norms and I Atelkm for Eastern Christians , according to my knowledge

 

[Willamena]

I agree that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
But If I have to be objective an impartial, it is obvious that nature has been generous to some people and less fair to others.

And how is that not in the eye of the beholder?

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

As for the texts and the Bible that support this are multiple ones
The man crown Alemraep
This means interdependence and Alnkadis to this sexual relationship
And also in the Christian concept of adultery , which is a broad concept , so the big criticism to Christianity stems from this trend , which calls for celibacy and chastity
Society has HCl outlook
But in Islam, in response to one of friends
Tell him
There is no concept of chastity as I wrote above.
Many of evidence
I mean chastity after marriage
Because so many marriages do not consider chastity
Have fun and do not consider marriage chastity
And sex with slaves .of right , do not consider chastity
Islam rejects absolutely monastic
But tradition in Islamic societies is inconsistent with the teachings
Chastity in Islamic societies virtual chastity
It is not real
I hope that my information may be reached despite twice in the English language