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What role sex plays in your religion.

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Well, please, do say what role sex plays in your religion.
Even Atheists can participate, by saying what role sex plays in their vision of life.
And above all, your relationship with sex
 
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Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
All right. Christianity talks about sex frequently. My religion doesn't consider sex something to keep secret, or something to be ashamed of. It's a fact of life. People have sex because they are attracted to each other. There's nothing wrong with that, as long as they are two consenting adults.
I have a very healthy relationship with sex. I think that flesh is not against spirit, but sex is something spiritual because it's flesh which creates spirit and not vice versa.

For example, two young people a beautiful man and a beautiful woman fall in love with each other. And they feel the urge to kiss each other. And then to make love with each other.
This urge is very romantic. And Romance is the prove that God is present in that sexual relation.
 

chinu

chinu
Well, please, do say what role sex plays in your religion.
Even Atheists can participate, by saying what role sex plays in their vision of life.
And above all, your relationship with sex
Firstly.. Sorry I don't have any religion. But am theist. I also have my own definition for religion.

To me the word religion means re-union. Re-union with from where we all started this journey of life in the beginning.

According to my doctrine its impossible to get spiritual-progress while indulging in sex. Spiritual-progress is only possible by sacrificing it. But if one isn't interested in spiritual-progress than there's no need of any such renouncement.

Now, leaving my religion aside I also think that a lot/excess of sex is not good for health, So one should also avoid it as much is it possible depending on ones sexual-excitation.

Sex for reasonable need is reasonable. That's it all. :)
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Firstly.. Sorry I don't have any religion. But am theist. I also have my own definition for religion.

To me the word religion means re-union. Re-union with from where we all started this journey of life in the beginning.

According to my doctrine its impossible to get spiritual-progress while indulging in sex. Spiritual-progress is only possible by sacrificing it. But if one isn't interested in spiritual-progress than there's no need of any such renouncement.

Now, leaving my religion aside I also think that a lot/excess of sex is not good for health, So one should also avoid it as much is it possible depending on ones sexual-excitation.

Sex for reasonable need is reasonable. That's it all. :)

Considering sex as a need is very squalid. No offense. That's why people who prefer masturbation than sex are a bit squalid.

Sex is something spiritual. It's intrigue, seduction, malice, torture, delusion, struggle, fun. It's all these things mixed up together.

Besides, you talk about sex as if it was something you can't control. You certainly can control sex drive.
And sex is almost a duty. People have the duty to have sex if they are wanted and desired.
I don't understand why chastity is considered a virtue. It's the most awful thing ever.
A chaste priest makes me puke. He is far from God because he has deliberately renounced to create that spiritual connection with God through sex.

If had a daughter who were a nun, it would be the worst thing ever
 

Sees

Dragonslayer
I would say simplistically that the general take on it would be: life is good + family is good + affection is good = sex is good :beach:

Could add in the goodness of love, pleasure, connection, etc. Like the majority of things, moderation and common sense are good to apply.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
All right. Christianity talks about sex frequently. My religion doesn't consider sex something to keep secret, or something to be ashamed of. It's a fact of life. People have sex because they are attracted to each other. There's nothing wrong with that, as long as they are two consenting adults.
I have a very healthy relationship with sex. I think that flesh is not against spirit, but sex is something spiritual because it's flesh which creates spirit and not vice versa.
Excellent..... so... as long as adults consent, they can make love with sex. Yes? That includes any combination of gender or sexuality.... right?

For example, two young people a beautiful man and a beautiful woman fall in love with each other. And they feel the urge to kiss each other. And then to make love with each other.
This urge is very romantic. And Romance is the prove that God is present in that sexual relation.
You seem to be obsessed with beauty. What is beauty? Are you beautiful? Do you have a partner or lover?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Excellent..... so... as long as adults consent, they can make love with sex. Yes? That includes any combination of gender or sexuality.... right?

precisely. even threesomes.
You seem to be obsessed with beauty. What is beauty? Are you beautiful? Do you have a partner or lover?

Beauty is something you like to admire and to contemplate. I consider myself an exotic beauty. We Mediterraneans are not as pretty as Nordic people, but we are pretty in our way. I check myself out about thirty times a day. Doing my hair and watching myself in the mirror is what I like the most in life. I am not joking.
 

chinu

chinu
Sex is something spiritual. It's intrigue, seduction, malice, torture, delusion, struggle, fun. It's all these things mixed up together.
What is Spiritual/Spirituality/Spiritual-progress ?
Once again, Sorry I have my own doctrine for it, Its a Long chapter. And according to that, Sex isn't spiritual, its just opposite.


Besides, you talk about sex as if it was something you can't control. You certainly can control sex drive.
That I agree.

And sex is almost a duty. People have the duty to have sex if they are wanted and desired.
Its need, not a duty.
If this would have been any kind of duty than people would have born in pairs of twins, one male and another female


I don't understand why chastity is considered a virtue. It's the most awful thing ever.
Long chapter to understand.

A chaste priest makes me puke. He is far from God because he has deliberately renounced to create that spiritual connection with God through sex.
You can only say that if you are really connected with God :)


If had a daughter who were a nun, it would be the worst thing ever
Firstly.. according to my doctrine 99% of the nuns in this world don't even know what is meant by a true nun. And becoming a true nun is a very far thing for them.

Secondly.. If you would have a daughter who were a true nun than it would be very big fortune for you. I hope if you could understand that.:)
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Sex plays a major role in my belief (don't have a religion). I believe we're all scr***d.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
What is Spiritual/Spirituality/Spiritual-progress ?

.

Spirituality is the meaning of things. Sex has no meaning if it's just lust or satisfaction of sexual organs. It has a meaning when you give it importance, and you consider it as a gift not as selfish pleasure

Its need, not a duty.
If this would have been any kind of duty than people would have born in pairs of twins, one male and another female

If you are a beautiful man and a beautiful woman falls in love with you, you have the biological duty to satisfy her.

Secondly.. If you would have a daughter who were a true nun than it would be very big fortune for you. I hope if you could understand that.:)

If by true nun you mean a completely chaste nun, that would be not a fortune.
If I had a nun as daughter, I would wish she had sex secretly, at least.
 

chinu

chinu
Spirituality is the meaning of things.
Sex has no meaning if it's just lust or satisfaction of sexual organs. It has a meaning when you give it importance, and you consider it as a gift not as selfish pleasure
Once again I have to say that I have long chapter regarding spirituality which is opposite to sexuality.

If you are a beautiful man and a beautiful woman falls in love with you, you have the biological duty to satisfy her.
Firstly.. biological duty = Need, Its just the change of language.
Secondly.. Clap is only possible by two hands. One hand cannot clap.


If by true nun you mean a completely chaste nun, that would be not a fortune.If I had a nun as daughter, I would wish she had sex secretly, at least.
I don't blame your thinking, My friend.
Its all what you think as right, But I just have very opposite view as of yours.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
precisely. even threesomes.


Beauty is something you like to admire and to contemplate. I consider myself an exotic beauty. We Mediterraneans are not as pretty as Nordic people, but we are pretty in our way. I check myself out about thirty times a day. Doing my hair and watching myself in the mirror is what I like the most in life. I am not joking.

...... but you do not have a partner or lover. Am I right?
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I would say that in Hinduism its a relatively minor factor. Helping others, trying to feel the divine in so many ways, finding peace of mind, survival. and more would all be much higher on an individual's priorities.
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Sex can be quite "spiritual", humans perceive this deep connection when we have sex. A nice little trick devised to keep families together by nature, no doubt! What role it plays for me is the same as a lot of other things. A good sex life is very important to a relationship and to yourself. It helps strengthen the bond between people thanks to chemical reactions. If we can get out fantasies out it will often be quite helpful to us. I've noticed that the things people like to do behind closed doors can say a whole lot about them and can be very useful information! But like everything else sex can he dangerous and misused as well. This is all more psychological than religious though - I don't really have a more direct answer because I don't really have fall into any religion I could openly speak for.
 

StarryNightshade

Spiritually confused Jew
Premium Member
Hinduism is rather neutral on sex. Like Vinayaka said, there are other factors (such as helping others, Karma, Dharma, etc.) which are considered more important. Indian society, however, tends to be very conservative when it comes to the subject.

As for my relationship with it? It's nice when it happens, but it's not the greatest thing in the world.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Like most atheists, I use sex as a twisted way to act out on my suppressed psychological damage. Since I don't believe in god or morality, I am free to engage in increasingly bizzare and immoral sexual perversions to satsify my unnatural psycho-sexual urges, regardless of the damage is does to my psyche or immortal soul.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Like most atheists, I use sex as a twisted way to act out on my suppressed psychological damage. Since I don't believe in god or morality, I am free to engage in increasingly bizzare and immoral sexual perversions to satsify my unnatural psycho-sexual urges, regardless of the damage is does to my psyche or immortal soul.

Actually whatever kind of "kinky" sex you have, it will never damage your immortal soul.
Sin is when your hurt the neighbor. Sex between consenting adults is never a sin, because it doesn't hurt anyone.
Rape and similar things are sins. because you hurt someone
but orgies, swinging and similar things are not sins
 
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