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What TIME is it?

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
How many times in your life
have you thought to be absolutely right
about something you believed to be true
but found out later on you were absolutely wrong?
How many times?

.....But I have never found the Bible to be wrong.

I was raised about a permanent burning hell fire, and came to believe that was absolutely scripturally wrong.
The English word hell in connection to fire was translated from the word Gehenna.
Gehenna was simply a garbage pit where things were 'destroyed forever' and Not kept burning forever.
Especially when unfaithful Jews began mixing with the Greeks they adopted their theories and philosophies.
So, the false teaching about a permanent burning place for the dead began to be taught in Christendom.
Whereas the Bible's hell is simply mankind's temporary grave for the unconscious dead.
That is why Jesus taught an unconscious sleep-like state for the dead at John 11:11-14 and Not burning pain.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member

Living Souls?
Does this mean there are dead souls?
The beginning of your soul
is like an unpainted canvas.
There is nothing on it.
This is when you are unaware
of even your own existence.
As you become aware your soul
is beginning to take
on form and shape.
The spirit is infused into the body
at birth to become a living soul.
Where the spirit
and the physical are infused.
The spirit is the life of the blood.
The blood is the life of the flesh.
Which infused with each other
makes a living soul.
You cannot travel back in time.
You can only travel forward in time.

Genesis talks about ' living souls '
Before God breathed the ' breath of life ' into lifeless Adam, Adam was Not a living soul - Genesis 2:7
Nowhere does Scripture teach that Adam ' came to have ' a soul, nor possess a soul, rather Adam was a soul.
Adam did Not come to life before breathing. At death 'all of Adam' returned to the dust.
To me, a person can Not ' return ' to a place he never was before.
All of Adam went from non-lfe, to life, and returned back to non-life. Thus becoming a dead soul or lifeless soul.
As Scripture teaches the dead know nothing - Ecclesiastes 9:5, and the soul that sins dies, and can be destroyed.
- reference: Ezekiel 18:4,20; Acts of the Apostles 3:23

Just as a pep rally is designed to create lively school spirit, or a lively horse is high spirited, once Adam breathed Adam had life's spirit. At death Adam's spirit went out just as a burnt-out light bulb goes out and is gone.
 

Auggxv

Infinite Infinity
At death Adam's spirit went out just as a burnt-out light bulb goes out and is gone.
Even if I were God, I would not change you. I would leave you
just the way you believe. You are sure enough going to find out if what you have said here to me is the truth or not. By your own experience.

Enjoy the ride.
 

Auggxv

Infinite Infinity
When atheist say to me..."there is no God" I just smile and say to myself....Boy are they in for a big surprise.

I do not argue with them...
I do not try to convince them....
in fact I like it that they believe there is no God...

It serves them right.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
When atheist say to me..."there is no God" I just smile and say to myself....Boy are they in for a big surprise.
I do not argue with them...
I do not try to convince them....
in fact I like it that they believe there is no God...
It serves them right.

What about former atheists who become Christians, does that serve them wrong.
To me, what would be the point of taking the good news message to the ends of the Earth if people (atheists) could Not be persuaded to believe in God's kingdom government - Matthew 24:14; Acts of the Apostles 1:8; Daniel 2:44
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Even if I were God, I would not change you. I would leave you
just the way you believe. You are sure enough going to find out if what you have said here to me is the truth or not. By your own experience.
Enjoy the ride.

God does Not change us. We have the option to change ourselves.
It's not what I said personally, but what I posted is what the Bible really teaches that is scriptural truth.
Before the outbreak of the great tribulation of Revelation 7:14 men (powers that be) will be saying, " Peace ".
- 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3
 

Auggxv

Infinite Infinity
God does Not change us. We have the option to change ourselves.
It's not what I said personally, but what I posted is what the Bible really teaches that is scriptural truth.
Before the outbreak of the great tribulation of Revelation 7:14 men (powers that be) will be saying, " Peace ".
- 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3
You do not know God nor do you know the truth.
And you certainly have no knowledge of the spirit realm.

You do not even know much of the physical realm.
That which you are born.
 

Auggxv

Infinite Infinity
What about former atheists who become Christians, does that serve them wrong.
To me, what would be the point of taking the good news message to the ends of the Earth if people (atheists) could Not be persuaded to believe in God's kingdom government - Matthew 24:14; Acts of the Apostles 1:8; Daniel 2:44
How would the devil answer this question?
Who are the children of God?

How would God answer this question?
Who are the children of the devil?

Now ask them both and tell me what they told you.

Do not lie to me for I will always catch you in it.
 

Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
1. When did time start?

As far as we can tell, time exists within the universe, rather than the other way around. So from the larger perspective- all time exists simultaneously, even if we can only occupy one part of it

Just as all space exists, even if we can only occupy one part of that- it doesn't mean the others cease to exist.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
How would the devil answer this question?
Who are the children of God?
How would God answer this question?
Who are the children of the devil?
Now ask them both and tell me what they told you.
Do not lie to me for I will always catch you in it.

Besides God and Satan, Jesus answers who are the children of God according to Matthew 25:31-33,37
Those figuratively placed at Jesus' right hand of favor can become forever children of God.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
You do not know God nor do you know the truth.
And you certainly have no knowledge of the spirit realm.
You do not even know much of the physical realm.
That which you are born.

According to Scripture, Jesus taught his knowledge to us of the spirit realm.
Jesus also taught that the humble meek will inherit the physical realm ( Earth )
 
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