What we'll evolve to ?

[FearGod]

Sure. But there were mammals when there were no humans yet, too. That does not add meaning to the question "if humans evolved from mammals" either. Since we are still Apes (and mammals) , it does not make much sense to postulate we evolved from something we still are.

So, in the interest of precision, I would formulate my question in terms of: if humans evolved from non humans....
Or, alternatively, if humans evolved from fish....

Ciao

- viole

OMG, being Apes doesn't mean we didn't evolve.

Once there were Apes but not Humans at one point of time, then we evolved from the Apes,
IOW, if we didn't evolve from Apes or fishes then that means we were always existing.

 

[Windwalker]

If after 100,000 years a new species of humans appeared will the older ones (us) still exist
similar to the other Apes that's still existing.

It's possible of course. This does happen in evolution where a new species branches off from another and both exist at the same time going separate ways. Do you assume that to evolve from an earlier species, that the early species ceases to exist, becoming the new one? If that was true it would be like denying your parents exist at the same time you do because you came from them. That makes no sense. I think you are confusing metamorphosis with evolution.

 

[Skwim]

Assuming that the evolution of Humans came from Apes, so what humans
will look like after 100,000 years based on our modern scientific knowledge.

3015.......................................................................................................4015​

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[leibowde84]

OMG, being Apes doesn't mean we didn't evolve.

Once there were Apes but not Humans at one point of time, then we evolved from the Apes,
IOW, if we didn't evolve from Apes or fishes then that means we were always existing.

We did evolve from apes, and, further back, we evolved from small rodents (the first mammals). Obviously, at no time during this evolving did human being exist. These things eventually evolved into human beings, so, until the evolving was completed, there were no humans. Why is that so hard to understand?

 

[FearGod]

It's possible of course. This does happen in evolution where a new species branches off from another and both exist at the same time going separate ways. Do you assume that to evolve from an earlier species, that the early species ceases to exist, becoming the new one? If that was true it would be like denying your parents exist at the same time you do because you came from them. That makes no sense. I think you are confusing metamorphosis with evolution.

Yes i agree with you that some may evolve while the others will stay unchanged (recent humans).

If that happened what do you think the relationship will be between the old humans(we) and the evolved ones, just your expectations, of course

 

[leibowde84]

Yes i agree with you that some may evolve while the others will stay unchanged (recent humans).

If that happened what do you think the relationship will be between the old humans(we) and the evolved ones, just your expectations, of course

With the way humans treat each other now, it probably won't be pretty. The book "The Time Machine" kind of gets into this issue, and it's not pleasant.

 

[FearGod]

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Sophisticated eyes, but what that neck good for.

 

[Lyndon]

Unpredictable. Except, I will still be the standard and ideal of handsome in 100,000 years.

About as handsome as dust can be!!

 

[Skwim]

We did evolve from apes, and, further back, we evolved from small rodents (the first mammals). Obviously, at no time during this evolving did human being exist. These things eventually evolved into human beings, so, until the evolving was completed, there were no humans. Why is that so hard to understand?

I DON'T WANT TO!​

 

[Skwim]

Sophisticated eyes, but what that neck good for.

It's a secondary sexual characteristic. You'll have to be there to understand.


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[Windwalker]

Yes i agree with you that some may evolve while the others will stay unchanged (recent humans).

If that happened what do you think the relationship will be between the old humans(we) and the evolved ones, just your expectations, of course

I just had an interesting thought. We actually have evolved as the homosapien species, and we are today. Evolution is not just our biology, but our cognitive minds as well as our consciousness. That sort of evolution moves at a much faster rate that biology. And if we compare where we are today in our stages of consciousness development we are considerably beyond where we were even a thousand years ago, let alone 10,000 years ago. You should refer to Jean Gebser's work for more information on this specifically outlining the stages from archaic, to magic, to mythic, to rational, to intergral: http://www.gaiamind.org/Gebser.html

So to answer your question, we will have evolved beyond killing each other over such things as religious differences. We will have evolved to the point where we are in control of our minds and impulses and no longer believe magic forces control our worlds or our destinies, leaving such fantasies in our early childhoods.

 

[metis]

It's a secondary sexual characteristic. You'll have to be there to understand.


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Is that where the term "necking" came from?

 

[leibowde84]

I just had an interesting thought. We actually have evolved as the homosapien species, and we are today. Evolution is not just our biology, but our cognitive minds as well as our consciousness. That sort of evolution moves at a much faster rate that biology. And if we compare where we are today in our stages of consciousness development we are considerably beyond where we were even a thousand years ago, let alone 10,000 years ago. You should refer to Jean Gebser's work for more information on this specifically outlining the stages from archaic, to magic, to mythic, to rational, to intergral: http://www.gaiamind.org/Gebser.html

So to answer your question, we will have evolved beyond killing each other over such things as religious differences. We will have evolved to the point where we are in control of our minds and impulses and no longer believe magic forces control our worlds or our destinies, leaving such fantasies in our early childhoods.

I've always wondered whether things like height is a product of evolution. Since we are, on average, about a half-foot taller than we were say 200 years ago, is that change due to height not being necessary?

 

[metis]

I've always wondered whether things like height is a product of evolution. Since we are, on average, about a half-foot taller than we were say 200 years ago, is that change due to height not being necessary?

This is more common in the west, and studies have shown that western women prefer taller men-- but not too tall-- unless they make millions playing basketball.

 

[Skwim]

Is that where the term "necking" came from?

Hey, you looking for a visit from the men in black? Loose lips sink ships.

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[metis]

Hey, you looking for a visit from the men in black? Loose lips sink ships.

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Nah, it's more the black helicopters that I'm concerned about , but I think they're only coming after you though, so I'm OK.

 

[Windwalker]

I've always wondered whether things like height is a product of evolution. Since we are, on average, about a half-foot taller than we were say 200 years ago, is that change due to height not being necessary?

That has more to do with nutrition I believe. If however tall people can no longer breed with short people, then we may be looking a speciation.

 

[viole]

OMG, being Apes doesn't mean we didn't evolve.

Once there were Apes but not Humans at one point of time, then we evolved from the Apes,
IOW, if we didn't evolve from Apes or fishes then that means we were always existing.

Of course it does not mean we did not evolve. It simply makes no sense to say we evolved from apes in the same way it does not make any sense to say we evolved from mammals. Being still both apes and mammals.

To say that we evolved from apes is like saying a modern Mercedes Benz or BMW evolved from cars. Which, I hope you agree, sounds funny. The fact that there were cars before there being Mercedes or BMWs does not make the sentence less funny.

And I never said we did not evolve from fishes. We actually did. And it makes more sense, since we are not fish anymore.

Ciao

- viole

 

[FearGod]

Of course it does not mean we did not evolve. It simply makes no sense to say we evolved from apes in the same way it does not make any sense to say we evolved from mammals. Being still both apes and mammals.

To say that we evolved from apes is like saying a modern Mercedes Benz or BMW evolved from cars. Which, I hope you agree, sounds funny. The fact that there were cars before there being Mercedes or BMWs does not make the sentence less funny.

And I never said we did not evolve from fishes. We actually did. And it makes more sense, since we are not fish anymore.

Ciao

- viole

It makes sense to say cars evolved from carriage, cars models are still the same cars.

Humans of today is different than the last common ancestor of humans and Apes.

 

[metis]

It makes sense to say cars evolved from carriage, cars models are still the same cars.

Humans of today is different than the last common ancestor of humans and Apes.

Of course we're different as the process never stops.