What would happen if

[muhammad_isa]

..but when a valuable camel is at stake, that certainty of faith suddenly vanishes.

Faith in what?
That we have no part to play in our lives, and that all we have to do is make supplication, and Allah SWT will do the rest?

That is not Islam .. that is misbelief.

 

[vulcanlogician]

No. I disagree with that.

Well, do you take offense if that's my way of approaching things I disagree with? I'm not saying that everyone needs to handle things the way I do.

 

[KWED]

Faith in what?
That we have no part to play in our lives, and that all we have to do is make supplication, and Allah SWT will do the rest?

That is not Islam .. that is misbelief.

Muhammad said "Trust in Allah, but tether your camel".
Clearly he didn't trust in Allah.

Also remember that nothing happens except by the will and decree of Allah, so if he has decreed that you camel will run off in ten minutes, tethering it will not prevent it.

 

[KWED]

Well, do you take offense if that's my way of approaching things I disagree with? I'm not saying that everyone needs to handle things the way I do.

It was a wee, ironic joke.

 

[vulcanlogician]

It was a wee, ironic joke.

Ah, yeah. I see now.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

No it would be wisdom

Call it however you wish.

It's not going to change the fact that at that point, you willingly and intentionally avoid being exposed to radically different ideas and opposing viewpoint.
Instead, you lock yourself up in a bubble filled with people who more or less believe / think as you do.

And the fundamentals of your beliefs, opinions, viewpoints,... are no longer going to get challenged.

I don't consider that a good thing.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Call it however you wish.

It's not going to change the fact that at that point, you willingly and intentionally avoid being exposed to radically different ideas and opposing viewpoint.
Instead, you lock yourself up in a bubble filled with people who more or less believe / think as you do.

And the fundamentals of your beliefs, opinions, viewpoints,... are no longer going to get challenged.

I don't consider that a good thing.

What you concider good or bad is your personal view.

 

[rational experiences]

If I'm a human. And a woman. And I get attacked with similar biological causes in living inside a heavenly life.

Brain prickling.

Memory said it's how a man brother theist brain mind changed his mind to become theist....originally.

Involving star fall.

When I got attacked it wasn't star fall it was collider experiment plus all other types of machines programs bio man was applying.

As human proof he changed what he never owned.

My female life. As he does not theory for two humans. Just pretended he did.

He never owned natural mass of anything in science.

Instead of claiming science is a liar by man choices. He says he's learning by machines that only humans built. Lying.

So whose going to stop him?

 

[Spirit of Light]

If I'm a human. And a woman. And I get attacked with similar biological causes in living inside a heavenly life.

Brain prickling.

Memory said it's how a man brother theist brain mind changed his mind to become theist....originally.

Involving star fall.

When I got attacked it wasn't star fall it was collider experiment plus all other types of machines programs bio man was applying.

As human proof he changed what he never owned.

My female life. As he does not theory for two humans. Just pretended he did.

He never owned natural mass of anything in science.

Instead of claiming science is a liar by man choices. He says he's learning by machines that only humans built. Lying.

So whose going to stop him?

To be honest, I don't understand what you trying to say here.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

What you concider good or bad is your personal view.

Is it?

Let's talk in generic terms.

Suppose you hold believe X.
Suppose X is actually wrong.

You surround yourself with people who all believe X.
You actively ignore people who don't believe X and thus aren't getting exposed to their viewpoints, arguments, etc.

Would you say that that is a pathway which will make you realize X is wrong?

Consider if you would have treated Bahai's this way.
Would you be a baha'i today? Or would you rather still be a suffi?

 

[rational experiences]

To be honest, I don't understand what you trying to say here.

My brother is a man and a human who said he was Jesus the man owning wearing the thorns....crown brain mind prickling.

Given to him to bare by his inhumane science temple rich man scientist brother.

Pretty basic how a human not a man learnt about your lies.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Is it?

Let's talk in generic terms.

Suppose you hold believe X.
Suppose X is actually wrong.

You surround yourself with people who all believe X.
You actively ignore people who don't believe X and thus aren't getting exposed to their viewpoints, arguments, etc.

Would you say that that is a pathway which will make you realize X is wrong?

Consider if you would have treated Bahai's this way.
Would you be a baha'i today? Or would you rather still be a suffi?

I would be baha'i today.

Even i have changed my religious beliefs and understandings in the past, does not make them wrong, it make my understanding change of what i need in my life