What would it mean to your religious beliefs if evolution were true?

[stanberger]

Try responding to what I actually said, that should help.

I'm an atheist.

Try responding to what I actually said, that should help.

I'm an atheist.

I apologize

 

[SkepticThinker]

I apologize

No worries!

 

[stanberger]

No worries!

someone posted that he left Catholic Church for Reform Judaism under your name...probably a hack

 

[viole]

I agree its too late for the west now. they have removed god from society and opened pandoras box of immorality .....this only confirms my belief in the lord's final revelation [islam] and leaving church behind

Well, at least we do not dress our women like Batman.

ciao

- viole

 

[wellwisher]

sometimes its hard to keep up with your changing views from what I can tell just by your posts. your Reform Judaism but against god's word in bible regarding homosexuality. abortion and transgedering etc. you kind of pick and choose what to believe from the Bible

All the things you listed have something in common. These all need science to make happen or accommodate. Abortion happens in a clinic. It is not something that nature provides without a clinic. It is not natural, but needs artificial additives that science and the free market can offer.

Transgenders cannot spontaneously change sex no matter how much you wish. This change requires many layers of artificial things, offered by science and the free market.

Homosexuality could not be sustained, as today, if there were no preventive and reactive medications, since this behavior is notorious for disease and compulsions. Natural things do not need science to prop it up, like a prosthesis, to simulate a natural outcome.

The bible appears to recommend a purely natural path that is self sustainable, without any extra social costs or science gimmicks. What often happens is science and technology is able to add needed prosthesis, not found in nature, to make the outcome of some things appear closer, to that of natural. This fools many people into thinking both are the same; similar outcomes.

If you go back to bible times, people could observe behavior and could see what was natural and what was not based on the healthy simplicity of nature. Without the needed science, the above three things were not sustainable back in the day. They would be considered pathological, since the urge would not lead to the outcomes of nature. Rather there was added social costs to prop it up.

It is not clear whether God minds human and science ingenuity, in these matters, or whether he is still strict on natural only. But artificial additives will cause us to further depart from our natural human instincts, connected to our human DNA and the brain's operating system. These are much older than modern science prosthesis and various social magic tricks that can fool the ego.

 

[viole]

Homosexuality could not be sustained, as today, if there were no preventive and reactive medications, since this behavior is notorious for disease and compulsions. Natural things do not need science to prop it up, like a prosthesis, to simulate a natural outcome.

What reactive medications? I know lots of gays. And they do not seem to need any medication, at all.

by the way, children cancer is also very natural, with a very natural outcome. Thrilled to know they need no science to prop it up. Prayer maybe?

ciao

- viole

 

[stanberger]

Well, at least we do not dress our women like Batman.

ciao

- viole

Well, at least we do not dress our women like Batman.

ciao

- viole

you mean the western men who still marry women don't get me wrong I support gay marriage for all western men. its a great way to reduce their population and increase immigration

 

[viole]

you mean the western men who still marry women don't get me wrong I support gay marriage for all western men. its a great way to reduce their population and increase immigration

Well, not in Switzerland, lol. we actually banned you guys from dressing your women like Batman. Unless it is Carnival, of course.

Ciao

- ciole

 

[KWED]

you mean the western men who still marry women don't get me wrong I support gay marriage for all western men. its a great way to reduce their population and increase immigration

Why do you want to reduce the population of western men? Sounds a bit extremist.
BTW, as a Texan male, you are the definition of "western man"!

 

[stanberger]

Well, not in Switzerland, lol. we actually banned you guys from dressing your women like Batman. Unless it is Carnival, of course.

Ciao

- ciole

but your mothers daughters and wives are still dancing nude in storefront windows in Amsterdam's red light district oy vey

 

[KWED]

but your mothers daughters and wives are still dancing nude in storefront windows in Amsterdam's red light district oy vey

Again, are you ok?
I know I can be a bit confrontational/patronising/dismissive on here but I do get genuinely concerned when I see people struggling with what are clearly some troubling issues. Is there someone you can talk to?

 

[stanberger]

Again, are you ok?
I know I can be a bit confrontational/patronising/dismissive on here but I do get genuinely concerned when I see people struggling with what are clearly some troubling issues. Is there someone you can talk to?

Again, are you ok?
I know I can be a bit confrontational/patronising/dismissive on here but I do get genuinely concerned when I see people struggling with what are clearly some troubling issues. Is there someone you can talk to?

if you're going to dish it out you're gonna have to be able to take it

 

[KWED]

if you're going to dish it out you're gonna have to be able to take it

I was referring to your bizarre outburst about other people's mothers and daughters. Do you often fantasise about them dancing naked? How does it make you feel?

And your desire to reduce the population of "western men" (despite being one yourself - was it perhaps a reference to your father?).
As I said, I think talking to a professional might help.

 

[viole]

but your mothers daughters and wives are still dancing nude in storefront windows in Amsterdam's red light district oy vey

OK, I am out.

Ciao

- vicle

 

[stanberger]

I was referring to your bizarre outburst about other people's mothers and daughters. Do you often fantasise about them dancing naked? How does it make you feel?

And your desire to reduce the population of "western men" (despite being one yourself - was it perhaps a reference to your father?).
As I said, I think talking to a professional might help.

no. I

I was referring to your bizarre outburst about other people's mothers and daughters. Do you often fantasise about them dancing naked? How does it make you feel?

And your desire to reduce the population of "western men" (despite being one yourself - was it perhaps a reference to your father?).
As I said, I think talking to a professional might help.

no I feel sorry for them ....today more women are baby mamas in the west than married to one husband pew research in islam 99 percent of muslims today marry just one wife. always a female

 

[KWED]

no I feel sorry for them ....today more women are baby mamas in the west than married to one husband pew research in islam 99 percent of muslims today marry just one wife. always a female

You seem confused again. You were talking about mothers and daughters dancing naked in Amsterdam. Now you are going on about "baby mamas" (whatever they are - surely all mothers have babies) and heterosexual marriage.

Please try not to veer all over the place so much. Assume that the reader doesn't know what you are thinking, so the post must be self-explanatory.

 

[SkepticThinker]

no. I

no I feel sorry for them ....today more women are baby mamas in the west than married to one husband pew research in islam 99 percent of muslims today marry just one wife. always a female

Why is that better, in your opinion?