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What would Muhammad have thought about smoking?

Reptillian

Hamburgler Extraordinaire
I have a Muslim friend who is completely against alcohol because of his faith, but he smokes a lot of cigarettes. Would the prophet Muhammad approve of my friend's frequent smoking?
 
When the scholars wrote that it was permissible, they did not know the harmful effects of smoking. They recently did a poll and it was unanimous that smoking is haram.
 

fatima_bintu_islam

Active Member
I have a Muslim friend who is completely against alcohol because of his faith, but he smokes a lot of cigarettes. Would the prophet Muhammad approve of my friend's frequent smoking?

Agreed with the last post, I also want to point that starting to differentiate between what some Muslims do and what Islam is , is a very productive step.

Keep following that kind of thinking and you'll have satisfying results with the will of ALlah
 

Faithfreedom

i gotta change my avatar
I have a Muslim friend who is completely against alcohol because of his faith, but he smokes a lot of cigarettes. Would the prophet Muhammad approve of my friend's frequent smoking?

My observation is Muslims as a whole, smokes more than others.
This makes me ask myself why.
I think its because they have less outlets for (the want of a better word) entertainment. Muslims are (imo) very much restricted.
whereas I can consume alcohol, eat anything i like, etc.

So, when smoking is not forbidden, they are more likely to go for it.
Then they get addicted.

Was there tobacco during Muhammad's time? I don't know. Probably not since he didn't mention it.
I think he would have come out with a verse to prohibit smoking, had smoking existed then. (because it would weaken his army)

Ayatollah Khomeinni the Iranian leader proclaimed that smoking hashish is permissible.
Santana sang out to legalize cocain :D
 

Sahar

Well-Known Member
My observation is Muslims as a whole, smokes more than others.
This makes me ask myself why.
Before you ask yourself why, you need to re-consider your observation because it's far away from the truth.
So when some people drink alcohol and eat pork, they entertain themselves more than those who don't? What's this naivety and non-sense?!!!
Apart from religious reasons, if I don't drink alcohol or smoke so that I can be healthy, it will mean I am less entertained? Believe me, those who ruin their health will have much less entertainment. :rolleyes:

I wonder about some people's goals and purposes in this life, their understanding of life, of happiness and entertainment. Because I see there are many who have very superficial understanding of these meanings.
 
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Sahar

Well-Known Member
I have a Muslim friend who is completely against alcohol because of his faith, but he smokes a lot of cigarettes. Would the prophet Muhammad approve of my friend's frequent smoking?
Smoking is haram haram haram (forbidden). Smoking is a sin and on the day of Judgment those who smoke will be asked about the health and the money they waste. They don't harm themselves only but those around them.
 

Reptillian

Hamburgler Extraordinaire
My observation is Muslims as a whole, smokes more than others.
This makes me ask myself why.
I think its because they have less outlets for (the want of a better word) entertainment. Muslims are (imo) very much restricted.
whereas I can consume alcohol, eat anything i like, etc.

So, when smoking is not forbidden, they are more likely to go for it.
Then they get addicted.

Was there tobacco during Muhammad's time? I don't know. Probably not since he didn't mention it.
I think he would have come out with a verse to prohibit smoking, had smoking existed then. (because it would weaken his army)

Ayatollah Khomeinni the Iranian leader proclaimed that smoking hashish is permissible.
Santana sang out to legalize cocain :D

I don't know if Muslims in general seem to smoke more, but my friend certainly does smoke a lot. Tobacco is a New World crop so it wasn't around in ancient times, I told my friend I thought it would have been restricted too if it had been around.

Smoking is haram haram haram (forbidden). Smoking is a sin and on the day of Judgment those who smoke will be asked about the health and the money they waste. They don't harm themselves only but those around them.

So the matter has been discussed within Islam then. :) My friend has been trying to quit because he doesn't want to harm his long term health. I've only ever seen him smoke outside so he is pretty considerate of those around him.
 

Sufi

Member
I think its because they have less outlets for (the want of a better word) entertainment. Muslims are (imo) very much restricted.
whereas I can consume alcohol, eat anything i like, etc.

Was there tobacco during Muhammad's time? I don't know. Probably not since he didn't mention it.
I think he would have come out with a verse to prohibit smoking, had smoking existed then. (because it would weaken his army)

Ayatollah Khomeinni the Iranian leader proclaimed that smoking hashish is permissible.
Santana sang out to legalize cocain :D

FaithFreedom we can eat a LOT of things as long as it is Halal or Kosher,
Alcohol is indeed prohibited but hey at least we dont risk addiction or all sorts of cancers due to Alcohol,
there are 1001 drinks we can consume like healthy fruit juices : ) i challenge you to bring an ''authentic'' fatwa by Khomeini where he allows the smoking of Hashish.

Your speculations regarding our Prophet Muhammad (saws) i find too absurd to respond to with all due respect.
 

fatima_bintu_islam

Active Member
Blah Blah Blah //

Ayatollah Khomeinni the Iranian leader proclaimed that smoking hashish is permissible.
Santana sang out to legalize cocain :D


First , WHo is Ayatollah Khomeini in the Islamic world? Nothing.

Khomayni said that you could have sex with a new born baby . Ill give you an example for what Khomayni is ( first hes a Shiite ) and I have sources from their official website:

Q: Im 16 and sometimes, while watching TV, my father start touching my private parts from the back , what is the ruling on this:
A ( khomayni) : AS long as hes doing it without desire ( i.e no sexual intentions ) than theres nothing wrong with it.

Well , its a challenge for a normal person to understand how playing with the privates parts of your son is not based on sexual desires . ANd the questions and aanswers are filled with similar stuffs . But yet , you're quoting Khomayni on Islamic matters.

Try to reorganise your thoughts on Islamic matters from time to time, that would be of great benefit to your next discussions Inshallah.
 

fatima_bintu_islam

Active Member
i challenge you to bring an ''authentic'' fatwa by Khomeini where he allows the smoking of Hashish.


AKhil Kareem,

Why challenge him ? Of course he'll find it, since there are millions of similar fatwas of Khomeyni regarding every forbidden aspect in Islam.

Muslims should try to wake up regarding what this Khomeyni guy and his followers are :) , if you speak arab Ill show you that Im certainly not playing around accusing anyone I find in my road. May ALlah protect us from such a thing, I have sufficient and unlimited proofs , and dont think that I go find them in the anti Shia website, I find them in their OFFICIAL websites , believe me Wallahul Musta'ane.

It is a very sad situation actually , but still Muslims are not fully aware of it.
 

neves

Active Member
AKhil Kareem,

Why challenge him ? Of course he'll find it, since there are millions of similar fatwas of Khomeyni regarding every forbidden aspect in Islam.

Muslims should try to wake up regarding what this Khomeyni guy and his followers are :) , if you speak arab Ill show you that Im certainly not playing around accusing anyone I find in my road. May ALlah protect us from such a thing, I have sufficient and unlimited proofs , and dont think that I go find them in the anti Shia website, I find them in their OFFICIAL websites , believe me Wallahul Musta'ane.

It is a very sad situation actually , but still Muslims are not fully aware of it.

okay.. then since you know where the source is can you show us where it is...
 

Sufi

Member
AKhil Kareem,

Why challenge him ? Of course he'll find it, since there are millions of similar fatwas of Khomeyni regarding every forbidden aspect in Islam.

Muslims should try to wake up regarding what this Khomeyni guy and his followers are :) , if you speak arab Ill show you that Im certainly not playing around accusing anyone I find in my road. May ALlah protect us from such a thing, I have sufficient and unlimited proofs , and dont think that I go find them in the anti Shia website, I find them in their OFFICIAL websites , believe me Wallahul Musta'ane.

It is a very sad situation actually , but still Muslims are not fully aware of it.

While i am oppossed to Khomeini i think we must treat him fairly no need to lie on his behalf i am aware Khomeini had a lot of negative and obscure views but no need to bring up fabrications.
 

Sahar

Well-Known Member
First , WHo is Ayatollah Khomeini in the Islamic world? Nothing.

Khomayni said that you could have sex with a new born baby . Ill give you an example for what Khomayni is ( first hes a Shiite ) and I have sources from their official website:

Q: Im 16 and sometimes, while watching TV, my father start touching my private parts from the back , what is the ruling on this:
A ( khomayni) : AS long as hes doing it without desire ( i.e no sexual intentions ) than theres nothing wrong with it.

Well , its a challenge for a normal person to understand how playing with the privates parts of your son is not based on sexual desires . ANd the questions and aanswers are filled with similar stuffs. But yet , you're quoting Khomayni on Islamic matters.

Try to reorganise your thoughts on Islamic matters from time to time, that would be of great benefit to your next discussions Inshallah.
Fatima, no need for this stuff. Khomeni's thinking, movement and position were remarkable whether we liked him or not. He is far away from being nothing. It's not the proper thread, anyway.
 

Sahar

Well-Known Member
So the matter has been discussed within Islam then. :)
Yes, Smoking did not exist in the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) but our great religion of Islam has laid down general principles from which many laws are derived. From these principles, Muslim scholars have come to the conclusion that smoking is prohibited (Haram).
islamawareness
Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a senior lecturer and Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada states:
"One of the principles of Islamic jurisprudence is that all that is harmful and filthy is considered haram (forbidden).

There is enough scientific evidence to prove that smoking is harmful to one's health. Islam teaches us to take care of our health and not to destroy it. By smoking we are causing our own destruction, and Allah’s order in the Qur’an is clear: “Do not cause your own destruction” (Al-Baqarah: 195); “Do not kill yourself, for verily God is ever Merciful towards you” (An-Nisaa': 29).

Allah has prohibited us from squandering our wealth, and there is no doubt that smoking is sheer wastage of valuable resources. The money thus squandered on tobacco could very well rid the world of poverty — if correctly utilized.


My friend has been trying to quit because he doesn't want to harm his long term health. I've only ever seen him smoke outside so he is pretty considerate of those around him.
That's a good start. You can also tell him that it's forbidden in Islam, maybe this will boost his will and motivation. Help him quit this bad habit, not easy but let him pray and ask God to give him strength.
:)
 

fatima_bintu_islam

Active Member
While i am oppossed to Khomeini i think we must treat him fairly no need to lie on his behalf i am aware Khomeini had a lot of negative and obscure views but no need to bring up fabrications.

Akhil Kareem, its not part of my manners to bring fabrications against anyone wether it is my friend or my ennmy Barakallahu feek.

I know what I am talking about ,my respected brother, and when I said that Muslims are not fully aware of what Khomeyni is , in this case aswell I know totally what Im talking about.

So please akhi, dont accuse me before checking if Im just playing around or really trying to wake up my brothers and sisters on this matter.

Barakallahu feek wa Jazakallah khayran.
 

Bismillah

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I'm curious. What is the consensus among Muslims on marijuana? Do you believe that it is an haram substance and not to be touched?
 
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