What would Muhammad have thought about smoking?

[fatima_bintu_islam]

Fatima, no need for this stuff. Khomeni's thinking, movement and position were remarkable whether we liked him or not. He is far away from being nothing. It's not the proper thread, anyway.

My beloved sister ,

You , and especially you, know perfectly that I dont tend to say stuffs with no convincing reason behind it .

I have to show what Khomeyni is, because when the day the non Muslims will find out that he makes having sex with babies Halal, or that you can borrow your brothers wife for sexual purposes or any other unbelievable fatwas ; when that day comes, the same Muslims I was trying to help opening their eyes on the matter will face the problematic of explaining to non Muslims that this is not Islamic . But of course non Muslims would have already a strong belief that he is an Islamic leader, why? Because Muslims defended him , and were trying to show that no , it is impossible that he may allow smoking, while in fact smoking is nothing in regards of his other fatwas .

So now you may see why I spoke publicly against him my dear sister.

Sufi, you accused me of lying; it hurted me very much I ask ALlah that he forgives you amen , but all I have to say is that I did what I had to do, and when that day I mentioned will come you'll have to face the consequences of defending AL khomeyni.

Barakallahu feeki not4me , I hope you understand now why I said what Ive said and that you understand my stance on the matter

May ALlah preserve you.

 

[Sahar]

Source please, dear sister?

 

[EiNsTeiN]

Fatima, you are accusing Khomeni with horrible claims, that you should be providing references for, regardless of whether we like him or not.

 

[Bismillah]

Not4me do you know what pan is (the leaf)?

 

[Faithfreedom]

sorry people, i am not allowed to debate in DIR. I was just giving my opinion to Reptillian who asked, "Would the prophet Muhammad approve of my friend's frequent smoking?"

 

[neves]

Why do I feel some challenging in your post my respected brother?

Do you speak Arabic ?

And are you a Shiite?

Barakallahu feekum

All I am asking for is a source of what you are claiming...

 

[fatima_bintu_islam]

All I am asking for is a source of what you are claiming...

And that is why I asked you if you speak arabic

Since not4me speaks arabic, heres what Ive talked to you about my dear sister . And I sincerely hope that you dont have anything against me in your heart because of this matter Inshallah

Here are the kind of fatwas Khomeyni and his friends love to declare:

. الخميني يبيح التمتع بالبنت الرضيعة :

يقول الخميني في كتابه تحرير الوسيلة ص241 مسالة رقم 12 ( وأما سائر الاستمتاعات كاللمس بشهوة والضم والتفخيذ فلا بأس بها حتى في الرضيعة ) !


. الخميني يبيح وطء الزوجة في الدبر:

يقول الخميني في تحرير الوسيلة ص241 مسألة رقم 11 ( المشهور الأقوى جواز وطء الزوجة دبراً على كراهية شديدة ) !

قلت: نشكر الخميني على قوله ( على كراهية شديدة ) ، ولا نملك إلا ذكر قول رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم ( ملعون من أتى امرأة في دبرها )


. فضل الله يبيح النظر إلى النساء وهن عاريات !

يقول فضل الله في كتابه النكاح ج1 ص66 ( فلو أنّ النساء قد اعتادت الخروج بلباس البحر جاز النظر إليهن بهذا اللحاظ. ) إلى أن قال ( وفي ضوء ذلك قد يشمل الموضوع النظر إلى العورة عندما تكشفها صاحبتها ، كما في نوادي العراة أو السابحات في البحر في بعض البلدان أو نحو ذلك )

قلت: أي دين وأي منطق هذا ؟ لكنها مخرجات الحوزات التي ذكرنا في مقالة ( ماذا يقول الخوئي عن المخدرات ) أنها كانت مرتعاً للفساد ! فإنا لله وإنا إليه راجعون


. الخوئي يبيح لعب الرجل بعورة الرجل والمرأة بعورة المرأة من باب المزاح !
سؤال 784: هل يجوز لمس العورة من وراء الثياب من الرجل لعورة رجل آخر، ومن المرأة لعورة أخرى، لمجرد اللعب والمزاح، مع فرض عدم إثارة الشهوة؟
الخوئي: لا يحرم في الفرض، والله العالم. المصدر: صراط النجاة في أجوبة الاستفتاءات ج3 (مسائل في الستر والنظر والعلاقات ).

- محمد الحكيم يجوّز إعطاء فيلم يحتوي على صور نساء محجبات في حالة تكشف لرجل غريب أجنبي عن النساء لتحميض الفلم ولكن لا يجوز النظر بشهوة !

حواريات فقهية لمحمد سعيد الحكيم - الطبعة الأولى ص324

. الخميني يجيز التمتع بالزانية !

يقول في كتابه تحرير الوسيلة ( مسألة 18 : يجوز التمتع بالزانية على كراهية خصوصا لو كانت من العواهر والمشهورات بالزنا ، وإن فعل فليمنعها من الفجور ) !

تحرير الوسيلة ج2 ص292

قلت: يا لكرم أخلاق الخميني ، يقول رب العزة والجلال { والزانية لا ينكحها إلا زان أو مشرك وحرّم ذلك على المؤمنين } ، فهنيئا للخميني تحديده للصنف الذي يليق به وهو ( مشرك ) ، إذ هو وأمثاله يدعون غير الله ويستغيثون بهم ( يا علي ) ( يا مهدي أدركني ) والله عز وجل يقول له ولأمثاله { أمّن يجيب المضطر إذا دعاه ويكشف السوء ويجعلكم خلفاء الأرض ، أإله مع الله } ، الله يقيم الحجة عليهم وتأتي صيغة الاستفهام استنكارية ، لكن يأتي الخميني وأمثاله ليقولوا ( نعم ) ويقولون ( ناد علياً مظهر العجائب ، تجده عوناً لك في النوائب ) !


. أحسن طريقة لمعرفة عفة امرأة مسلمة ما هي؟!

يجيب الرضوي على هذا السؤال الذي افترضناه قائلاً: ( وجدت في مخطوطات للمرحوم جدّي العالم الرباني السيد مرتضى الرضوي الشهير بالكشميري طاب ثراه : إذا أردت أن تعلم أن المرأة عفيفة أم فاسدة ، فاحسب اسمها واسم أمها بالجُمل الكبير أولاً ، وأسقط من الجميع ثلاثة ثلاثة ، فإن بقي واحد فهي فاسدة وإن بقي إثنان فهي عفيفة ، وإن بقي ثلاثة فهي متهمة ، صحيح مجرب ) !

التحفة الرضوية في مجربات الامامية ص214

قلت: عفة نساء المسلمين معلومة بأخلاقهن وإيمانهن ، فمن عُرف عنها الخير والصلاح والعفة فهي العفيفة المصون ومن عرف عنها الفساد فهي الفاسدة ، أما أن يأتي هذا وأمثاله كجده أحرق الله ثراه ليفتري على الله الكذب ويشكك في عفة نساء المسلمين ويجعلن عرضة للطعن من أجل حساب جملة فهذا ما لا نرضاه !

تبغين تسمعين ماذا يقول الألباني في الخميني , و بالأدلة القطعية ؟

http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vb/showthread.php?t=200589

If you want pictures of his fatwas , from his own book ; youu can find it here:

فتاوي خمينية بجواز تغيير الجنس وجواز الاستمتاع بالرضيعة

I hope that you're not thinking Im enjoying exposing him ; something like :" Ha Ha Ha , I told you that he was a bad guy" . No at all, the truth have to be said whether people accept it or not , as long as you have enough proofs to show it.

Barakallahu feekum

 

[fatima_bintu_islam]

In the first quotes, when it says قلت its not me, its the one who quoted it.

 

[Sahar]

Oh God, what are you doing? This is inappropriate to post. Posting the links could be enough.
Secondly, these are Sunni websites that attack him. You said from their official website, remember?

 

[fatima_bintu_islam]

My sister , the sunnis websites are quoting from his books. Ill get you the official if you want, but Im sure I brought enough proofs unless theres something stopping you from accepting them.

I had to post what is in there, because as you noticed; you attacked the fact tht it comes from Sunni websites , therefore you wouldnt have read them .

Wether its not appropriate or not, I was accused that Im only making lies and I had to proof otherwise.

I could bring the original books of Khomeyni, but it still wouldnt change the fact since the quotes and images are from his own book.

Allahul Musta'ane

 

[beenie]

can those quotes be translated? i don't understand a word of it, and i'm sure most don't either.

 

[fatima_bintu_islam]

It was mainly directed to nt4me thats why I didnt prefer to translate them as its not the appropriate thread for it.

Inshalah if at anytime I find a need to use such a thing in appropriate threads, Ill take the time to translate them so that everyone understand them Inshallah

My apologies

 

[Reptillian]

I just used google translate from the post in arabic and this is what it gave me in english:

Khomeini permits the enjoyment of the daughter baby:

Khomeini says in his book Liberation means issue, p. 241 No. 12 (The other Alastmtaat Kams desire and Altfajiv annexation and there is nothing wrong even in the baby)!


. Khomeini permits in anal intercourse:

Khomeini says in the liberation of the question means, p. 241 No. 11 (the strongest known passport intercourse with the wife Debra on the deep hatred)!

I said: We thank the Khomeini as saying (on the deep hatred), and have only mentioned the words of the Messenger of Allah may Allah bless him and his family and him (Cursed with a woman in her back passage)


. Fadlallah is permissible to look at naked women!

"Said Fadlallah in his book Marriage vol. 1, p. 66 (if that women have used to get out the bathing suits may look at them, this canth.) That said (and in light of this may include the subject to look at sexual relations when revealed was accompanied, as in the clubs, naked, or lone stars in the sea in Some countries or so)

I said: any religion and any logic of this? Output seminaries, but that we have mentioned in article (what to say al-Khoei on drugs) it was a breeding ground for corruption! Allah we belong and to Him we shall return


. Khoei allows men play men and women awrah awrah women from the door kidding!
Question 784: Is it permissible to touch the genitals of the man behind the clothes of the roughness of another man, and women's nakedness again, just playing and joking, with the imposition of his desire not to raise?
Al-Khoei: I do not deprive the hypothesis, God and the world. Source: the path of escape in the answers to referenda c (3 issues in Ulster, and consider and relationships).

- Muhammad al-Hakim may give the film contains images of veiled women in the case to reveal a strange man for foreign women for developing the film, but may not be considered with desire!

Hawwariaat fiqh of Muhammad Said al-Hakim - the first edition p. 324

. Khomeini permits Balzanip enjoy!

Says in his book editing tool (Question 18: may enjoy Balzanip to hate, especially if they are prostitutes and celebrities to adultery, but did Vlemenaha of debauchery)!

Liberation means c 2, p. 292

I said: Oh, for the generous attitude of Khomeini, says the Lord of Glory (and the adulteress none marries her except an adulterer or an idolater is forbidden to the believers), congratulations to Khomeini selected for the class that it deserves a (gentile), as he and his ilk claim is God and crying out with them (O Ali) ( Ya Mahdi Odrickni) and Allah Almighty says to him and his ilk (Who answers the distressed one, if invited him and the evil, and makes you inheritors of the earth, a god with Allah), God establish proof against them and come formula question Astinkarip, but comes Khomeini and his ilk to say (yes) and say (club Graduate appearance Wonderland , will help you find the episodes)!


. The best way to see a Muslim woman's chastity what is it?!

Answer Razavi on this question, which we assumed, saying: (found in manuscripts of the late grandfather of the world the Lord's Mr. Morteza Razavi famous Bakoshmiri Good prose: If you want to know that chaste women or corrupt, Vahsb her name and her mother sentences great first, and dropped from all three by three, the Left one is corrupt, although there were still two are chaste, although there were still three are accused of, it is true experimenter)!

Masterpiece Razavi in front Expelling p. 214

I said: chastity Muslim women information Bokhalagahn and belief, it is known to be good and righteousness and chastity are chaste protected is known about corruption are corrupt, but that comes and his ilk just like him burn God rest his soul to invent a lie against Allah and calls into question the chastity of Muslim women, and make open to challenge in order to calculate inter That is not what will undoubtedly!

Tbgin hear what he says in Albanian Khomeini, and evidence of peremptory?

 

[beenie]

yeah, i did some research and found the fatwas Fatima is referring to. it's hard to find unbiased sources though, and there is question as to whether those fatwas are authentic.

i'm not in any position to decipher that though...so i'll leave it at that. i can't imagine any reasonable human being condoning sexual acts with infants and animals, but again...

 

[Bismillah]

i can't imagine any reasonable human being condoning sexual acts with infants and animals, but again...

Especially a shrewd politician who is the leader of an Islamic country that finds itself without friends.

 

[Sahar]

yeah, i did some research and found the fatwas Fatima is referring to. it's hard to find unbiased sources though, and there is question as to whether those fatwas are authentic.

i'm not in any position to decipher that though...so i'll leave it at that. i can't imagine any reasonable human being condoning sexual acts with infants and animals

That's why we must be sure before anything. I am not here to defend Khomeni but also I don't believe anything without a credible source.

 

[beenie]

That's why we must be sure before anything. I am not here to defend Khomeni but also I don't believe anything without a credible source.

agree 100%.
all feelings aside about him personally and as a leader, i don't like to slander anyone without undeniable proof.

 

[Sahar]

Doesn't really seem to stop some nations.

Oh my! Lebanon and Turkey have been sinning more than America per capita!

Lebanon and Turkey two of the most (if not the most) liberal and secular nations in the Middle East.

 

[Sahar]

Not4me do you know what pan is (the leaf)?

Is this something related to cannabis?

 

[EiNsTeiN]

My sister , the sunnis websites are quoting from his books. Ill get you the official if you want, but Im sure I brought enough proofs unless theres something stopping you from accepting them.

I had to post what is in there, because as you noticed; you attacked the fact tht it comes from Sunni websites , therefore you wouldnt have read them .

Wether its not appropriate or not, I was accused that Im only making lies and I had to proof otherwise.

I could bring the original books of Khomeyni, but it still wouldnt change the fact since the quotes and images are from his own book.

Allahul Musta'ane

Thanks Fatima for providing the sources, but I really hoped you would just provide links, like not4me suggested


If these sources are really authentic , this would be horrible!