What Would You Think of...

[The Sum of Awe]

What if tomorrow, you get the news online or from the television that Historians find a very old text, let's say in the time after Christianity was founded and before Islam was founded.

This text is scientifically accurate on a lot of things, it even has some parts of it that talk about something very similar if not exactly to evolution, and it has parts that relate to the Big Bang, talks about things which would now be known as atoms.

So basically, it talks about things that was discovered by science way after its written period, maybe not using the terms we use today such as "evolution" or "atoms" etc. but talks about it.

And it is a religious text, so it will say there is a God, in fact it will also tell us there is an afterlife and it will try to describe them both.




Would this change your mind on God? Would it make you change your religion or become a theist? What would you think of it?

 

[Bob Dixon]

I'd think it's cool, but it wouldn't really change my mind or anything.

A lot of it would depend on where it was discovered, though. If it was discovered in the Middle East (as your post implies), that would be cool. If it was discovered in,for example, India... it would still be cool, but there are already such texts that come from there, so...

 

[fantome profane]

What if tomorrow, you get the news online or from the television that Historians find a very old text, let's say in the time after Christianity was founded and before Islam was founded.

This text is scientifically accurate on a lot of things, it even has some parts of it that talk about something very similar if not exactly to evolution, and it has parts that relate to the Big Bang, talks about things which would now be known as atoms.

So basically, it talks about things that was discovered by science way after its written period, maybe not using the terms we use today such as "evolution" or "atoms" etc. but talks about it.

And it is a religious text, so it will say there is a God, in fact it will also tell us there is an afterlife and it will try to describe them both.




Would this change your mind on God? Would it make you change your religion or become a theist? What would you think of it?

It would not change my mind on "God", but it would change my mind on history.

 

[Thief]

As this topic begins with some supposition....
I suppose I would embrace a text that puts it all together....
with God still holding the stacked deck.

Having already surrendered the dogmatic approach...
having done well in science studies...
Seeing evolution and God's handiwork as one...

No problem.

But my take on Genesis does as much anyway.

 

[F0uad]

What if tomorrow, you get the news online or from the television that Historians find a very old text, let's say in the time after Christianity was founded and before Islam was founded.

This text is scientifically accurate on a lot of things, it even has some parts of it that talk about something very similar if not exactly to evolution, and it has parts that relate to the Big Bang, talks about things which would now be known as atoms.

So basically, it talks about things that was discovered by science way after its written period, maybe not using the terms we use today such as "evolution" or "atoms" etc. but talks about it.

And it is a religious text, so it will say there is a God, in fact it will also tell us there is an afterlife and it will try to describe them both.




Would this change your mind on God? Would it make you change your religion or become a theist? What would you think of it?

I think many religions already do this... there are some ''scientific-al'' verses in religious scriptures may it be the Torah, Bible or Quran what wasn't known before or accepted before its time. Many atheist still do not belief in those so i don't see how they would belief that scripture you came up with.

I think the thing you describes such as the Big-Bang with off-course different terms being used because of its being a old-language is already mentioned in the Quran before that science or idea was known.

I think for a book that is from god should have a challenge that cannot be refuted or it has to be so special that its not natural.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

It would not change my mind on "God", but it would change my mind on history.

But if it is accurate on most teachings, wouldn't it most likely be accurate on all?

 

[Fraleyight]

My first thought would be where did the text come from? I would like it to be extensively studied and verified to be legit by multiple sources. After all how many times have we found noah's ark?

So lets say for arguments sake this text was verified numerous times from different sources to be true.The one thing left would be how would god tie into all this? After all there are people today that understand all this stuff and still use god to fill in the gaps. If and only if God was used to specifically explain things we don't understand with evidence in these texts to support it. I would say that would be outstanding evidence to support a GOD. Now the questions left to answer would be what GOD. Where did this GOD come from.

 

[Me Myself]

But if it is accurate on most teachings, wouldn't it most likely be accurate on all?

Never fall into that trap. Always check as much as you can.

That said:

I dont know, I´d first doubt the reliability of whoever is publishing this if with time this was shown to be true and all, sure I´ll give it a read to the supernatural parts!

 

[Wiets]

I think for a book that is from god should have a challenge that cannot be refuted or it has to be so special that its not natural.

Would this also apply to the bible or quran?
If it can be refuted, then it is not from god?

Then why do believers still believe this books?

 

[Quintessence]

There are already ancient texts that do this. Not usually all of these ideas in one place, but in every era you can find texts where writers were thinking far ahead of their times. The concept of evolution has roots in classical antiquity, for example, and greek philosophers also posited the existence of atoms far before science ever observed them. Therefore, I really wouldn't see this as anything out-of-the-ordinary.

 

[SageTree]

Some of us would be in Awe, no doubt.

 

[Breathe]

Would this change your mind on God?

I would definitely reflect upon what it says.

Would it make you change your religion or become a theist?

It depends.

Regarding both of these, however: does it ring true to me? Is it reasonable? It would be use for me, spiritually, if its conception of God was like that of a seven year old's or your average anti-theist trolls'.

What would you think of it?

I hold it in high esteem, because the authors of it would have, obviously, been very clever to have deduced what they had without the advent of modern science to back it up for them.

 

[fantome profane]

But if it is accurate on most teachings, wouldn't it most likely be accurate on all?

1+1=2
The capital city of Albania is Tirana
Barack Obama is president of the United States
There are leprechauns eating my socks
The tallest mountain on earth is 8848 meters

 

[9Westy9]

Depends on what else it says on other topics. How moral is the God suggested? Any accurate, unambiguous prophecies? and the list goes on.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

I have another question:

What if this same book was right about everything, questionable about God, but it also had an attempt of mathematical evidence of God but we in our modern science wasn't complex enough to understand it, not only that but it had a journal found nearby it which seemed to be a journal unfinished of a man claiming to be on Noah's Ark.


LOL^ Sounds way too unlikely to happen but just wondering

 

[Breathe]

What if this same book was right about everything, questionable about God, but it also had an attempt of mathematical evidence of God but we in our modern science wasn't complex enough to understand it, not only that but it had a journal found nearby it which seemed to be a journal unfinished of a man claiming to be on Noah's Ark.

LOL^ Sounds way too unlikely to happen but just wondering

I'd expect the story of the man on Noah's ark to be written by someone and placed nearby for deliberate reasons to make it look more factual, since we're pretty certain that Noah's ark didn't happen. If there was suddenly evidence to support the global flood of Noah's ark, it would cause some... surprise.

If I found this out and then the evidence to support it came later, I'd rethink my position though.

 

[Falvlun]

I think it would be something to look into, but it would need to be carefully vetted.

 

[9Westy9]

I have another question:

What if this same book was right about everything, questionable about God, but it also had an attempt of mathematical evidence of God but we in our modern science wasn't complex enough to understand it, not only that but it had a journal found nearby it which seemed to be a journal unfinished of a man claiming to be on Noah's Ark.


LOL^ Sounds way too unlikely to happen but just wondering

Then I wouldn't buy into the mathematical proof. Maybe I'd believe in the deity for some other reason i.e. fulfilment of prophecy

 

[F0uad]

Would this also apply to the bible or quran?
If it can be refuted, then it is not from god?

Then why do believers still believe this books?

I am pretty sure people are going to mock me because of saying this but anyway
Not entirely it can have some ''god's word'' but certainly if it cannot be refuted then its not natural therefore its not human... right?

The Quran has never been refuted on the challenge it gives to humankind it has been tried by over 1400/1434 years but it never happened...