What's all this about hearts?

[Sunstone]

Human language is rife with metaphor. Do you have a problem with metaphor in general, or just in this case?

Metaphor is a two-edged sword. You should keep that in mind.

 

[Sees]

Interesting if you ever watch a person get upset with thermals on no, not the underwear. The heart and chest region in general light up like crazy.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I constantly find religious types talking about peoples' hearts as if they use those hearts to think, or understand, or feel.

 

[NobodyYouKnow]

It refers to a spiritual heart and not a physical heart. The inference possibly came from chemicals like adrenaline rising in the chest area when one is 'in love' etc.

 

[idav]

I see the heart as being what a person really feels and thinks instead of what they say they think.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Metaphor is a two-edged sword. You should keep that in mind.

I thought they were called longswords. :sarcastic

 

[psychoslice]

Interesting if you ever watch a person get upset with thermals on no, not the underwear. The heart and chest region in general light up like crazy.

But the penis lights up crazy also, but that doesn't mean the sexual thought is in the penis.

 

[Truthisnotyourenemy]

I constantly find religious types talking about peoples' hearts as if they use those hearts to think, or understand, or feel.

In these modern times, we know very well that hearts only pump blood. It seems that in ancient times people mistakenly thought that hearts did the thinking (and that brains cooled the blood!).

Why is this ancient error so eagerly repeated by the religious? Is it that they hope to give their pronouncements unearned importance? Do they think that they can hide the fact that they are talking about mere emotions? Is this just another religious scam?

You're right ancient people believed the heart was the seat of intelligence and knowledge. But what did the prophet of Islam think, surely he wasn't as ignorant as everone else?

Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 429:

Narrated Malik bin Sasaa:

The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying between two men. A golden tray full of wisdom and belief was brought to me and my body was cut open from the throat to the lower part of the abdomen and then my abdomen was washed with Zam-zam water and (my heart was) filled with wisdom and belief...:yes:

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

It refers to a spiritual heart and not a physical heart.

Why do you foolishly pretend to know this?

 

[NobodyYouKnow]

Why do you foolishly pretend to know this?

Because, in this illusory world, any 'pretense' is just as foolish and illogical as the next 'pretense'.

Unless this reply was intended as sarcasm, in which case, I would have totally missed it anyway.

 

[psychoslice]

It refers to a spiritual heart and not a physical heart. The inference possibly came from chemicals like adrenaline rising in the chest area when one is 'in love' etc.

This is true, but those who live in wonderland wont agree.

 

[Looncall]

It's a common and occasionally useful metaphor that is used by both religious and non-religious people.

What is useful about it, except to make banal utterances seem special?

 

[Looncall]

You're right ancient people believed the heart was the seat of intelligence and knowledge. But what did the prophet of Islam think, surely he wasn't as ignorant as everone else?

Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 429:

Narrated Malik bin Sasaa:

The Prophet said, "While I was at the House in a state midway between sleep and wakefulness, (an angel recognized me) as the man lying between two men. A golden tray full of wisdom and belief was brought to me and my body was cut open from the throat to the lower part of the abdomen and then my abdomen was washed with Zam-zam water and (my heart was) filled with wisdom and belief...:yes:

Evidently, he was just as ignorant.

 

[Looncall]

Your 'find' seems suspiciously selective.

Good point. I should have used"notice". That is what I meant.

 

[Looncall]

Unless you perceive yourself standing on a rotating Earth, and that the sun becomes visible as the Earth rotates to bring the sun into sight. An exercise I would recommend everyone do on occassion to allow you to experience a different perspective. Of course, be prepared for the realization that you will most likely be standing somewhat sideways on the Earth as you envision this. Don't worry, you won't fall over.

That is special.

I also like to lie on the ground on a dark night and look into the starry sky, thinking about being on the surface of the spinning earth.

 

[SkylarHunter]

valentine's day must be excruciating.

:d:d:d:d:d:d

 

[oldbadger]

I constantly find religious types talking about peoples' hearts as if they use those hearts to think, or understand, or feel.

In these modern times, we know very well that hearts only pump blood. It seems that in ancient times people mistakenly thought that hearts did the thinking (and that brains cooled the blood!).

Why is this ancient error so eagerly repeated by the religious? Is it that they hope to give their pronouncements unearned importance? Do they think that they can hide the fact that they are talking about mere emotions? Is this just another religious scam?

I was heartbroken to read your OP. To spoil such semantics you must surely be a heartbreaker? Deep in the heartland of soul, pop and even classical music you could find your heart's desire, if you would but look, but to get straight to the heart of the matter....... many have already told you that the word 'heart' has many differing meanings and uses.

So take heart, and listen to their wisdom......

P.S. For God's sake don't go ripping out anybody heart because of that last sentence.

 

[crossfire]

What is useful about it, except to make banal utterances seem special?

I just love irony!

 

[Pegg]

I constantly find religious types talking about peoples' hearts as if they use those hearts to think, or understand, or feel.

In these modern times, we know very well that hearts only pump blood. It seems that in ancient times people mistakenly thought that hearts did the thinking (and that brains cooled the blood!).

Why is this ancient error so eagerly repeated by the religious? Is it that they hope to give their pronouncements unearned importance? Do they think that they can hide the fact that they are talking about mere emotions? Is this just another religious scam?

the 'heart' is figurative for the inner person and all their intrinsic qualities or nature.

 

[Farrukh]

why not people get brain attack when they suffer loss in business? why everyone getting heart attack?
we don't know now, but scientists will tell you may be after a century that heart is the master and brain is the slave.

"who feared the Beneficent God in secret, and turned to Him with a repenting heart". Quran 50:33