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What's the Best Scientific Evidence found in your Religion?

Sculelos

Active Member
Well obviously I take a great deal of interest in both Science and Religions but as being only one person and religious books typically taking a very long amount of time I don't really have the time to study each and every one of them.

Saying that if you had to pick a few passages from your favorite holy book or books what are they and what do they state that is so profound?

To see what I mean here is a Passage from Enoch Chapter 2.

CHAP. 2.—I observed everything that took place in the heavens, how the luminaries, which are in the heavens, do not depart from their paths, that each one rises and sets in order, each in its time , and they do not depart from their laws. 2. See the earth and observe the things that are done on it, from the first to the last, how no work of God is irregular in appearing. 3. See the summer and the winter, how then the whole earth is full of water, and clouds and dew and rain rest over it.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Although I'm not affiliated with any religion, I have read that studies of Buddhist monks have shown that their meditation practices tend to improve their brain functioning in certain ways.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Although I'm not affiliated with any religion, I have read that studies of Buddhist monks have shown that their meditation practices tend to improve their brain functioning in certain ways.

On second thought, I think I may have misunderstood the premise of your thread.
 

jonman122

Active Member
I didn't see any scientific evidence in your post, Sculelos. I really don't think any religious text has any scientific background, there is water on the planet but you really don't even need to be a man of science, religion or both to notice water.
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
Well obviously I take a great deal of interest in both Science and Religions
You're funny. :)

Saying that if you had to pick a few passages from your favorite holy book or books what are they and what do they state that is so profound?
I don't make the mistake of trying to conflate religious scripture with science. Religion is not science. Religion, and religious scripture, are more like art and poetry than science.
 

dyanaprajna2011

Dharmapala
Although I'm not affiliated with any religion, I have read that studies of Buddhist monks have shown that their meditation practices tend to improve their brain functioning in certain ways.

Yeah, this is true. If anyone wants it, I can post peer reviewed scientific journal articles detailing such things.

But I'm confused about the thread title and the OP, as what they have to do with each other?
 

captainbryce

Active Member
Well obviously I take a great deal of interest in both Science and Religions but as being only one person and religious books typically taking a very long amount of time I don't really have the time to study each and every one of them.

Saying that if you had to pick a few passages from your favorite holy book or books what are they and what do they state that is so profound?

To see what I mean here is a Passage from Enoch Chapter 2.
Christianity doesn't have it's own creation text (the idea being that it is based on the Jewish scriptures). Therefore, I would have to say that the best evidence of my faith is recorded in the Jewish texts of the Old Testament. That "evidence" being the creation texts which explain the nature of the Universe (largely missing in the holy texts of other religions which say very little about creation). I find that the order and method of creation as recorded in the bible seems more consistent with what science tells us about the universe (transcendent beginning; expanding universe; constant laws of physics; etc). Things that we now see and understand through science were predicted in scripture well before we got to this level of understanding. The fact that the bible makes accurate predictions of the future seems particularly compelling to me.
 

mycorrhiza

Well-Known Member
Mead absolutely can inspire.

That is all.

I don't know about inspiration, but it's definitely delicious :drool:.



My religion lacks holy scripture, so there's nothing to gather from sources like that. Many scientists share the core of Naturalistic Pantheism, even though they might not call themselves pantheists. Ideas that are shared by pantheists such as a deep awe and reverence for Nature as well as scientific curiosity has been quite important in shaping the natural sciences. The religion itself has done very little for science, but it's members have contributed.

The scientific evidence for my religion is vast, and all positive belief statements have been firmly evidenced. I'm pretty sure that over 99,9% of all scientists agree that Nature exists and is pretty cool :D.
 

dyanaprajna2011

Dharmapala
Christianity doesn't have it's own creation text (the idea being that it is based on the Jewish scriptures). Therefore, I would have to say that the best evidence of my faith is recorded in the Jewish texts of the Old Testament. That "evidence" being the creation texts which explain the nature of the Universe (largely missing in the holy texts of other religions which say very little about creation). I find that the order and method of creation as recorded in the bible seems more consistent with what science tells us about the universe (transcendent beginning; expanding universe; constant laws of physics; etc). Things that we now see and understand through science were predicted in scripture well before we got to this level of understanding. The fact that the bible makes accurate predictions of the future seems particularly compelling to me.

I'm curious: what exactly is it in the Jewish creation do you find consistent with science?
 

yoda89

On Xtended Vacation
Religion and Science are conflicting. Science demands things to be tested and tried. Until there is a confirmed repeated behavior of things. Religion demands a sense of blind belief that ignores logic.

Now an individual may wish to adept their views to include some scientific thoughts and logic. However, other principles of that religion would not hold up to produce evidence. As they have not for hundreds of years.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Well obviously I take a great deal of interest in both Science and Religions but as being only one person and religious books typically taking a very long amount of time I don't really have the time to study each and every one of them.

Saying that if you had to pick a few passages from your favorite holy book or books what are they and what do they state that is so profound?

1 Corinthians 13:13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

I am calling Psychology science.
 

yoda89

On Xtended Vacation
1 Corinthians 13:13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

I am calling Psychology science.

Does religion originally produce these actions or is it biology? These emotions were first developed as selected traits for the further development of mankind. These were within us long before Jesus and Moses. Neither of these men brought it upon us.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Does religion originally produce these actions or is it biology? These emotions were first developed as selected traits for the further development of mankind. These were within us long before Jesus and Moses. Neither of these men brought it upon us.

Religion does not produce them. My religion (if you can call it that) recommends them. It is a scientific recommendation imo because they work, like science works. (frubal for talking to me!)
 

ScottySatan

Well-Known Member
Do you mean to ask is there ever a scientific observation in a religious text?

I heard that there's a good reason why pork was declared unclean for the Jews, because at the time it was, well, unclean and could make you very sick. Maybe a Jewish person can back me up on this?

Is that the kind of thing you're looking for?
 

captainbryce

Active Member
I'm curious: what exactly is it in the Jewish creation do you find consistent with science?
Well, I just named a few of them (transcendent beginning; expanding universe; constant laws of physics), these are all things that the bible describes and which science confirms. Both the bible and science state that the earth was once unfit for life, and through a serious of progressive changes became more hospitable for us. The formation (and transformation) of the earth from a world incapable of supporting life, to one that is ideally suited for human life is another compelling factor for me.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
My practice dosent discount scientific findings. The best evidence would be that science isn't discounted as the practice remains reality based. The results like that associated with meditation and it's effects on the brain are harmonious with science as already been mentioned.
 

Aamer

Truth Seeker
Religion and Science are conflicting. Science demands things to be tested and tried. Until there is a confirmed repeated behavior of things. Religion demands a sense of blind belief that ignores logic.

Now an individual may wish to adept their views to include some scientific thoughts and logic. However, other principles of that religion would not hold up to produce evidence. As they have not for hundreds of years.

Yoda,
I disagree that religion demands blind faith that ignores logic.

Newtons First law of motion:
I. Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it.

So how do scientifically explain how the universe, our existence, the perfect harmony of nature came about from NOTHING? Logic dictates there had to have been an EXTERNAL force which set the wheels in motion.

Perhaps the word "religion" is not the best term here. I'm speaking of the existence of a supreme creator. A master designer who created something out of nothing by applying an external force. To me, it's more logical that there is a creator than the idea that nothing magically turned into something, which then turned into everything.

And to those who are ruled by science. I say science and mathematics are flawed. There must be a beginning and an end in science. There must be parameters. But when it comes to existence, there can be no beginning or end. Its impossible. And science has no explanation for the concept of infinity. We humans are not as smart as we think. We can't even explain our own existence.
 
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