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Whats the verdict on suicide?

Heneni

Miss Independent
Dream Angel my love! You are a child of the living God, even if the hills and the mountains should start to crumble and the waters rise up, he shall not forsake you. TRUST in your maker, who is able to see you through everything.

Prayer: Father God, in the Name of your son jesus christ, i pray that you will protect my friend and shall cover her with your wings. That you will comfort her and take her to a place of safety in her mind. A broken reed you shall not break, and a flickering flame you shall not snuff out. Rise up lord against the torrents of depression in her life. Take her to a safe harbour. You will not give up on her!

There is hope. There always is. You are valued and prescious, and fearfully and wonderfully made. A great addition to our race and a force to be reconed with. What appears to be an insurmountable obstacle in your life, is your greatest opportunity for victory. If i can see your greatness, and God has done all he can to save you, why give it up for momentary affliction. There will be a day when your tears will be no more. When you will have only peace and happiness.

Love you sis!
HEneni
 

Heneni

Miss Independent
Angel, God is with you, he is mighty to save. He delights in you. He will quiet you with His love, He will rejoice over you. And you will rejoice over him. Why is your soul downcast. You shall sing His praises again.

Psalm 55:2 Lord you hear and answer me. My thoughts trouble me and I am distraught.

Lord I cry out to you. My spirit grows faint within me, my heart within me is dismayed (Ps 143:4)

Lord, when I hoped for good,evil came. When i looked for light, then came darkness. (Job 30:26) Help angel lord, for hope deffered makes the heart sick.
 

Truth_Faith13

Well-Known Member
I appreciate your effort to cheer my up Heneni, I really do...but I feel so low and worthless at the moment, I can never go more than a couple of weeks where things are going right, like there were before, before it does a u-turn and everything comes crashing down...

My life is pointless....my friends dont care for me, my family drive me up the wall and I am just left on my own...
 

gzusfrk

Christian
I appreciate your effort to cheer my up Heneni, I really do...but I feel so low and worthless at the moment, I can never go more than a couple of weeks where things are going right, like there were before, before it does a u-turn and everything comes crashing down...

My life is pointless....my friends dont care for me, my family drive me up the wall and I am just left on my own...
See there tomorrow could be the start of a couple of weeks where every thing goes right,for me two weeks is a long time to go with out something going wrong,but tomorrow is a new day and things change, I know its hard to see some good in life when everthing seems so wrong,but people do care about you,it just seems like they dont. I dont think your life is pointless, I love you ,god loves you,and many others love you,my family also has already drove me up the wall.
 

Heneni

Miss Independent
I appreciate your effort to cheer my up Heneni, I really do...but I feel so low and worthless at the moment, I can never go more than a couple of weeks where things are going right, like there were before, before it does a u-turn and everything comes crashing down...

My life is pointless....my friends dont care for me, my family drive me up the wall and I am just left on my own...

This is a distinct and determined effort to help you understand that you are not what you are currently thinking you are. Worthless. Now that there is nobody else to lean on, there is only God. He is waiting patiently for you to grab a hold of his hand. IN Christ you are not worthless.

Pour your heart out to him. Nomatter what you have to say, he will listen. My life has not been going right for the last 9 years. I dont have family i can talk to. Nothing seems to work out the way i want it. I have been where you are. Often. My friend all forsake me too.

I read an interesting article the other day. Humans have a way of drawing a mental picture of what they think they ought to be like and have to be worthy or be successfull. When we feel like we are not measuring up to that image, we condemn and judge ourselves. Just need to redefine the image of worth, and success.

Your suffering is working in you preserverance. David and Job have been where you are too. That feeling of utter despair and a feeling of 'it is worthless'. David was a man after gods own heart, because when he felt like giving up, he ran straight to god. God does not require you to be strong, he wants you to let him be strong for you. He is your father, your defender, your vindicator. Cast your cares upon him and He will sustain you.

Sometimes we have just had enough. We feel utterly hopeless and useless because things are not working out the way we had hoped. OUr plans fail, our hopes fail, our lives seem to fall apart. But there is hope. God says that HE has plans for you. His plans for you are to prosper you and to give you a future. If your plans have not worked out, if your hopes have been dashed to pieces, there is one who has greater plans for you. His intentions towards you are good even if nobody elses is.

I wish i was there with you right now. But i know my god is. You have been created for such a time as this. Your presence on this earth was by gods design and purpose. Let him redefine your hopes and plans. Be content in the knowlege, that HE has PLANS for you!

I love you, god loves you. You would not be feeling like this unless satan was terribly eager to get rid of you. That should tell you that there is MUCH greatness in you. And that you are precious and worthy beyond your own understanding at this moment.

Heneni
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
The verdict on suicide is that it is NEVER, EVER the answer. I PM'd you. Please read what I had to say and let me hear from you. I realize that it's the middle of the night in England now, but I will keep watching for your reply. Just know that we do care for you and about you. You cannot make the decision to take your own life. It's not something you can change your mind about later. You hang in there and be strong. We are pulling for you and praying for you.
 

DadBurnett

Instigator
as I am really considering it right now...

I dont know why I bother....

As long as you are considering …. consider also the possible outcomes of suicide …
I’ve been in similar situations and even attempted it once and now (over five decades later) I am living proof that things do get better, better than I ever dreamed possible.

Sometimes it felt that I had entered the dark dismal valley of the shadow of death. The I realized, that there can be no shadows without there being light … look to the light …

There are those who believe that those who suicide are destined to spend an eternity in hell; an endless fate much, much worse than what you are now experiencing. The thing that turned my life around was a book given to me by my aunt, a book on reincarnation. I don’t believe in reincarnation, but just on the off chance …. I looked at the book to see what it might say about suicide. What it said that for those who suicide are destined to come back and repeat the experience until such time I they find a way to work through the circumstances that caused them to suicide. In either event, the possible consequences are horribly worse that what ever you are now experiences.

I know that when in such depressed states, it is difficult to imagine something better, to have bigger, better dreams. Nevertheless, I urge you to revisit the “signature line” used in your posts. Reread it, stop and take a deep breath, read it again and dare to imagine, to believe …

I believe that you can rise above whatever the current situation may be in your life. We who respond to you in this thread believe and our belief supports your highest and best dreams and desires.
 

rojse

RF Addict
Would you mind telling us why you are so depressed, Dream Angel? Perhaps another poster might be able to help you out.
 

Enlighten

Well-Known Member
I appreciate your effort to cheer my up Heneni, I really do...but I feel so low and worthless at the moment, I can never go more than a couple of weeks where things are going right, like there were before, before it does a u-turn and everything comes crashing down...

My life is pointless....my friends dont care for me, my family drive me up the wall and I am just left on my own...

Dream Angel, Can you share with us what is making you feel this way? I have been there myself and even got so far as to land myself into intensive care, perhaps I can help you through this?

I owe my life to the nurses who worked tirelessly to bring my organs back to life. Believe me everything still crashes down on me from time to time too, but each new day is another life lesson for me and I learn from it.

Please know that you are not on your own here and there are many people who care for you on this site alone, if you look at it from that point of view then it just shows how special you really are that you have touched peoples hearts that don't even know you personally. :D

I wish you well through these troubles and please PM me if you don't want to discuss in an open forum. x
 

rojse

RF Addict
Ghostaka, I am sure your heart is in the right place (behind the ribcage :D) but I am not sure whether using religious arguments to argue against suicide is going to be the best way to be of assistance to Dream Angel when he is having such a difficult time at this moment.
 

zomg

I aim to misbehave!
There was a time in my life (several maybe) where I was very serious about ending my own life.

Now, years later, I have a beautiful wife who loves me very much. Had I gone through with what I had thought at the time was inevitable...I shudder to think of what I would have missed!

Try to get through one day at a time, Dream Angel!
 

Phasmid

Mr Invisible
The future is something completely unkown. No matter how predictable your life may seem, it'll end up going completely differently to how you envisaged it. Situations change, states of mind change, EVERYHING changes. As FireOfTheCovenant has said, just take each day at a time.

"Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem".
 

Truth_Faith13

Well-Known Member
Thank-you all so much for your replies...it means a lot to me and have given me some things to think about through today while at work and have helped..I have done a lot of praying today and with the help of my residents (I am a healthcare assitant) who have the quirkiest sense of humour (I love my job - trying to think of the positives as they seem so few at the moment), I am feeling much better. I am still not happy with my life, and I still have a few issues which I need to work through...but for now...the idea of ending my life is no more...I scared myself last night..I have been suicidal once before, but never as low as what I felt last night..I was in the darkest corner of the darkest place I could imagine, I cried myself to sleep and I am so grateful to you all for your messages which helped me through. I knew you guys would, which is why I decided to come on here..I guess I was trying to find a way of stopping myself and here was the only place I new how I could stop myself..I am distraught for the way I felt last night, but I guess it has given me the wake up call I needed to start sorting through my issues...there are too many things going on at the moment to list, some asmall, some not so small, but put them together and they are a great weight on my shoulders that I could no longer bear. I am still not 100% happy, I would say I am currently at a cross roads and could easily slip back to the way I felt last night, I am using all my strength at the moment to keep those thoughts at bay - ever felt like you were more than one person fighting yourself? this is how I feel now...I hope you guys dont mind me coming on here and asking for your support? I feel like you are the only ones I can talk to, who wont judge me!

Thankyou!
 

Truth_Faith13

Well-Known Member
Ghostaka, I am sure your heart is in the right place (behind the ribcage :D) but I am not sure whether using religious arguments to argue against suicide is going to be the best way to be of assistance to Dream Angel when he is having such a difficult time at this moment.

he is a she...:)

Thanks for your support!
 

Enlighten

Well-Known Member
Thank-you all so much for your replies...it means a lot to me and have given me some things to think about through today while at work and have helped..I have done a lot of praying today and with the help of my residents (I am a healthcare assitant) who have the quirkiest sense of humour (I love my job - trying to think of the positives as they seem so few at the moment), I am feeling much better. I am still not happy with my life, and I still have a few issues which I need to work through...but for now...the idea of ending my life is no more...I scared myself last night..I have been suicidal once before, but never as low as what I felt last night..I was in the darkest corner of the darkest place I could imagine, I cried myself to sleep and I am so grateful to you all for your messages which helped me through. I knew you guys would, which is why I decided to come on here..I guess I was trying to find a way of stopping myself and here was the only place I new how I could stop myself..I am distraught for the way I felt last night, but I guess it has given me the wake up call I needed to start sorting through my issues...there are too many things going on at the moment to list, some asmall, some not so small, but put them together and they are a great weight on my shoulders that I could no longer bear. I am still not 100% happy, I would say I am currently at a cross roads and could easily slip back to the way I felt last night, I am using all my strength at the moment to keep those thoughts at bay - ever felt like you were more than one person fighting yourself? this is how I feel now...I hope you guys dont mind me coming on here and asking for your support? I feel like you are the only ones I can talk to, who wont judge me!

Thankyou!

I probably echo the thoughts of everyone on here, in thinking thankfully you are here, I for one have thought of you and watched for you coming on-line all day as I remember being where you are.

I remember feeling like that, and to be honest - I was my own worst enemy at that time.
 

Preacher_LaFleur

C.O.G.I.C.
I think that dream angel needs to speak with a certified counseler of her choice. Sometimes when a problem is beyond what we are qualified to deal with, it is always good to recommend professional help. Some times depression needs to be dealt with by use of medication. I hope dream angel does the right thing.
 

Enlighten

Well-Known Member
I think that dream angel needs to speak with a certified counseler of her choice. Sometimes when a problem is beyond what we are qualified to deal with, it is always good to recommend professional help. Some times depression needs to be dealt with by use of medication. I hope dream angel does the right thing.

I really have to disagree with you here, I can understand where Dream Angel is at in her life, and councelling is not the answer, friendship and someone to be there for you is. Councelling in the UK = Mental Health record, now that wouldn't go down well with future employers. Edit: and please take this from someone who works in the industry of healthcare/pharmaceuticals.
 
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