whats your beef with brexit?

[ratiocinator]

I notice that the British focus on UK only, ignoring what the other countries want.

They want to stay in the EU. The most Eurosceptic countries are Italy and the Czech Republic but they still want to stay by 66-34 and 72-28 respectively. Most member states have over 80% support for the EU (source).

The same poll put the UK on 55-45 to remain - so much for Brexiteers wanting the "will of the people".

 

[Altfish]

I notice that the British focus on UK only, ignoring what the other countries want.

Yes, that's the problem, too many Little Englanders running the country

 

[Notanumber]

The same poll put the UK on 55-45 to remain - so much for Brexiteers wanting the "will of the people".

With all the propaganda that the UK has had thrown at us over the past 3 years it is a wonder that there has not been mass suicides. People throwing themselves over that mythological cliff.

 

[Notanumber]

Yes, that's the problem, too many Little Englanders running the country

Too many quislings in the establishment.

 

[Estro Felino]

Yes, that's the problem, too many Little Englanders running the country

But Remainers say that the EU is holy, whereas what they have done in Greece, these criminal technocrats is a genocide.


So it turns out some Remainers could think we Mediterraneans are anthropologically inferior and don't deserve sympathy.

 

[Estro Felino]

They want to stay in the EU. The most Eurosceptic countries are Italy and the Czech Republic but they still want to stay by 66-34 and 72-28 respectively. Most member states have over 80% support for the EU (source).

The same poll put the UK on 55-45 to remain - so much for Brexiteers wanting the "will of the people".

If Italy is a Remainer country, why don't they do a referendum about it?

 

[Altfish]

But Remainers say that the EU is holy, whereas what they have done in Greece, these criminal technocrats is a genocide.


So it turns out some Remainers could think we Mediterraneans are anthropologically inferior and don't deserve sympathy.

No, we don't, we never have.
There is much wrong with the EU... BUT the benefits out-way the deficits.

 

[Altfish]

Too many quislings in the establishment.

Yes, making decisions on things like evidence - how frightening

 

[Estro Felino]

No, we don't, we never have.
There is much wrong with the EU... BUT the benefits out-way the deficits.

Sometimes opportunism doesn't make you see that dismantling this EU would be an act of justice.

 

[Estro Felino]

Yes, making decisions on things like evidence - how frightening

With this law Britain is already juridically out of the EU, since the national law prevails - no matter what- over the EU laws.
Brexit Secretary signs order to scrap 1972 Brussels Act - ending all EU law in the UK

 

[Altfish]

With this law Britain is already juridically out of the EU, since the national law prevails - no matter what- over the EU laws.
Brexit Secretary signs order to scrap 1972 Brussels Act - ending all EU law in the UK

But you ask a Brexiteer "Which laws would you change?" They have no answer apart from reducing environmental laws and scrapping worker protection.

 

[Estro Felino]

But you ask a Brexiteer "Which laws would you change?" They have no answer apart from reducing environmental laws and scrapping worker protection.

Back when Britain was an Empire there was no EU

 

[Altfish]

Back when Britain was an Empire there was no EU

When we were in the Stone Age we had no laws at all.

 

[ratiocinator]

Too many quislings in the establishment.

The use of the word "quisling" is simply false - it's untrue to suggest that there are any traitors collaborating with an enemy force occupying the country (see: quisling). This country isn't occupied by an enemy force. As for traitors, who's trying to push through the most extreme and risky policy in modern peace time, with no democratic mandate, against the will of the sovereign parliament, and (almost certainly) against the will of the people?

 

[ratiocinator]

Milton Jones joke from the Edinburgh Fringe: "What's driving Brexit? From here it looks like it's probably the Duke of Edinburgh" (from here)

 

[Notanumber]

The use of the word "quisling" is simply false - it's untrue to suggest that there are any traitors collaborating with an enemy force occupying the country (see: quisling). This country isn't occupied by an enemy force. As for traitors, who's trying to push through the most extreme and risky policy in modern peace time, with no democratic mandate, against the will of the sovereign parliament, and (almost certainly) against the will of the people?

If we fail to leave, it will be the end of democracy in the UK.

 

[Altfish]

If we fail to leave, it will be the end of democracy in the UK.

If we leave it'll be the end of the UK

 

[Estro Felino]

If we leave it'll be the end of the UK

The end of the Soroses, of the Rothschilds, u mean...

 

[Estro Felino]

A tactic I have seen in this debate is that the pro-Eu leftists tend to turn the victims into the perpetrators and the perpetrators into the victims.

Soros is a perpetrator. 1992 £ speculation
The Rothschilds are perpetrators
Merkel is a perpetrator

 

[ratiocinator]

If we fail to leave, it will be the end of democracy in the UK.

The exact opposite of the truth - the biggest risk to democracy is if we leave without a deal and without a further vote. This extreme right-wing government has no democratic legitimacy and it's following a policy that risks immense harm to the UK and it citizens.