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whats your beef with brexit?

Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
Estro Felino said:
Btw...newspapers here are also underlining that the perpetrator of the Manchester stabbing attack was not British...and they are trying to find out his nationality, to see whether he entered Europe thanks to the Left.
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Have your argument shot down.
So, change the topic - typical
 
Notanumber

Notanumber

A Free Man
Altfish said:
Of course they don't want us to leave because we are stronger together.
If a 'Clean Break' aka NO DEAL will harm Germany, I shudder to think what it'll do to us.
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She has ranked the UK in with China and the USA as major competitors of the EU.

That is how fearful she is and with good reason.

Boris can talk the talk but we need to see him walk the walk (away from the clutches of the EU).
 
Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
Estro Felino said:
Right...state security is related to Brexit.
Who is the perpetrator? Does he have UK citizenship?
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I'm not sure, he had been detained under the mental health act. Manchester Police have said it was not terrorist - but I don't know, and I live in Manchester
 
Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
Notanumber said:
She has ranked the UK in with China and the USA as major competitors of the EU.

That is how fearful she is and with good reason.

Boris can talk the talk but we need to see him walk the walk (away from the clutches of the EU).
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Fearful because we will become a nation selling junk - lower standards; great, we'll be a pariah state
 
Estro Felino

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
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ratiocinator

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Notanumber

Notanumber

A Free Man
ratiocinator said:
So they managed to find five! Here is what the CBI has to say:

A no-deal Brexit is not a clean break. It will not mean Brexit is over, for the UK or the EU. It will not mean an end to uncertainty for business.

Quite the opposite. No deal is a tripwire into economic chaos that could harm our country, and the EU, for years to come.
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Mrs May’s revised treaty will not mean Brexit is over and it will not mean an end to uncertainty for business.

It will mean that we handed over billions for no gain but plenty more pain because the EU will have the UK over a barrel.

We need a clean break so that we can negotiate good terms on a level playing field.
 
ratiocinator

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Notanumber said:
We need a clean break so that we can negotiate good terms on a level playing field.
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The best deal is being a member of the EU, especially with our rebate and special terms.

Notanumber said:
We need a clean break so that we can negotiate good terms on a level playing field.
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Insanity. If we crash out we'll be desperate for a deal because our economy will be damaged and will continue to suffer and the EU will be rightly P***ed off with us. Calling it a "clean break" is just deceptive.
 
Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
Notanumber said:
Mrs May’s revised treaty will not mean Brexit is over and it will not mean an end to uncertainty for business.

It will mean that we handed over billions for no gain but plenty more pain because the EU will have the UK over a barrel.

We need a clean break so that we can negotiate good terms on a level playing field.
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Still blaming everyone apart from the Brexiteers who led us into this chaos without a plan or the ability to negotiate.
 
Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
Notanumber said:
If the Remoaners believe that the EU is paradise they should relocate then everyone would be happy.
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No Remainers have ever described the EU as paradise; we have always said there are many problems with it.
It is only the alt-right who have sung from this hymn sheet. Totally delusional
 
England my lionheart

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
England my lionheart said:
CONFIRMED: Labour MPs have been told they are being whipped to back a second referendum on super Saturday

Finally off the fence
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No matter what the deal Boris just at made labour will only support it if it's tagged onto a referendum,the snow will only support labour if the support another indyref2,I think and hope they will be both dissapointed,I only see an election as a way out.
 
Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
England my lionheart said:
No matter what the deal Boris just at made labour will only support it if it's tagged onto a referendum,the snow will only support labour if the support another indyref2,I think and hope they will be both dissapointed,I only see an election as a way out.
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I've given up trying to predict what happens next.
I can't see there being enough votes for a 2nd Referendum or a General Election.
I would say Johnson't deal won't get voted through either BUT Tories in particular are hypocrites so will vote to suit their backers. In theory the ERG will not back the deal if the DUP are not happy; I can't see those MPs expelled by Johnson backing him. God knows what Labour Leavers will do??

I can't see there being a GE until Brexit is done and dusted; when that happens the Brexit Party becomes irrelevant and Tories will benefit.
If there is a GE I doubt anyone will get a clear majority; one good outcome could be Labour getting rid of Corbyn.

But what do I know?
 
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