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What's your position on the morality of altering ones state of mind recreationally?

Whats your general feeling towards actively altering your state of mind?


  • Total voters
    27

Alex_G

Enlightner of the Senses
I want to stay away from discussions rooted in legalities or practicalities concerning drug use, and of course please refrain from disclosing any personal discretions that would violate forum rules. I’m more interested in people’s core feelings regarding the subject of altering ones state of mind, and what you think are the reasons behind the way you feel.

So for the sake of clarity, concern yourself with things that offer some form of mental altering effect, be it sensory, cognitive or emotional alteration. (So don’t focus on heart medication for example).

The question relates to the recreational practice. I’d like to know if you are particularly anti, pro, indifferent or perhaps relative in terms of what means we are in fact talking about, or whether you are hypothetically talking about yourself or commenting on others.

As health (ill)effects will naturally enter the discussion, I’d like you to acknowledge such reasons, but also think beyond them regarding the morality of use, imagining a situation where there are perhaps no negative health effects to justify a given position. (i.e. i want you to focus more on why the process of 'mental alteration' might be considered immoral or not )

I’d like to know why you hold the particular position you have, and whether you’re religious belief (or lack of) plays any role in your held position.

It’s a subject that seems to have people holding fairly strong rigid views, and a subject I have my own thoughts on. Why would faculty altering capabilities be morally wrong in principle? Or rather, to whom would it really matter?

And as a bonus consideration, perhaps we can think about why people adopt recreational mind altering practices?

*I know there have been other threads where much talk has likely been covered, but I’m selfishly going to add this one to the forum anyway:p
 
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Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
Pro drug simply because what people do to/with their own bodies is their business.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
I had to put relative because not all frugs are created equal not for all circumstances.

Sugar is a drug, so is caffeine.
 

Me Myself

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One way to see pro drug is that it will do marvels towards population control.


Dammit, I am really Scroogy today. O.O
 

Titanic

Well-Known Member
I am pro drug. I have said why before but I do not think I should say it again if you know what I mean.
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
One way to see pro drug is that it will do marvels towards population control.


Dammit, I am really Scroogy today. O.O

Is it terrible that I partly agree with this? I agree in the sense that it isn't my business if someone wants to OD
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
Is it terrible that I partly agree with this? I agree in the sense that it isn't my business if someone wants to OD

The sad honest thing is that no one starts crack planning to overdose, and we are talking about many people's sons and daughters.

Some drugs are a blank check to lufe, and it tends to charge too high on that.
 

Titanic

Well-Known Member
Is it terrible that I partly agree with this? I agree in the sense that it isn't my business if someone wants to OD

The way I see it is that I do not think it is wrong to use drug's as long as you would not need a drug. There is a difference in a drug user and a drug addict.
 

Me Myself

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The way I see it is that I do not think it is wrong to use drug's as long as you would not need a drug. There is a difference in a drug user and a drug addict.

Depending on the drug the difference becomes slimmer and slimmer.
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
The only reason I have to see it that way, cold as it sounds, is because I've seen what drugs do to some people's lives. There's really no way to stop them from using if they want to use. Jail doesn't fix their problem. Control doesn't stop them. There's really nothing to do IMO except let it happen.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
I voted anti-drug only because drug (ab)use has affected me personally. I was not the (ab)user, but it affected my life in ways that I am still reeling from. Ordinarily I am of the opinion, as the Wiccan Rede states, "An it harm none, do as ye will". But people doing as they willed affected and harmed me. So my vote comes from my raw gut emotions and not my brain's intellect.
 

Me Myself

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Pot and mushroom's and LSD?

From my limited understanding pot is way more harmless than booz (maybe even more harmless than sugar and caffeine)

I cant speak for the others, I am the opposite direction of a drug conoseur.

I barely even have booz and sugar :p

The only reason I have to see it that way, cold as it sounds, is because I've seen what drugs do to some people's lives.
There's really no way to stop them from using if they want to use. Jail doesn't fix their problem. Control doesn't stop them. There's really nothing to do IMO except let it happen.

My high concern is those who start. If all drugs became legal, a lot more people would start than they would otherwise. This includes a lot of naive kids thinkin "oh its legal, this means its as "good/bad" as alcohol" specially as the cool kids show give them.

Then on, its addiction road.
 
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