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What's your religion's or philosophy's goal for humanity?

Adept

Member
Very simple an open debate is encouraged.

Personally, I want individuals to truly have knowledge about themselves and the world around them (knowledge, as in based on actual reasoning and science). Along with that, people should find the proper place for themselves in the world and help better humanity through educating the species on how to do all the above.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I wouldn't say my religion proposes any goals for humanity. It proposes only goals for myself and my own honor. Whether or not others follow a similar path is neither my decision to make nor within my power to enforce.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Very simple an open debate is encouraged.

Personally, I want individuals to truly have knowledge about themselves and the world around them (knowledge, as in based on actual reasoning and science). Along with that, people should find the proper place for themselves in the world and help better humanity through educating the species on how to do all the above.

Sounds like a decent humanitarian goal.

I also believe we are not just physical beings who live for a short time so Self-Realization of who we are is also a goal.
 

StarryNightshade

Spiritually confused Jew
Premium Member
I wouldn't say that mine has a goal for humanity. I follow it to help gain knowledge of myself and how I view and experience the world. I would only think that others would do the same with their respective paths.
 

Badran

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I have no qualms with purely selfish religions, to each their own!

It's not necessarily a question of selfishness.

I don't have a particular philosophy that i necessarily identify with, or a religion, but generally, i don't consider myself knowledgeable enough, understanding of things enough, or even emotionally balanced enough to say i have a goal for humanity. I suspect that even if i viewed myself to be doing well in those regards, i'd still be uncomfortable with wording it in the sense that i have a goal for humanity.

Based on your answer to your question though, i understand it's most likely meant more along the lines of what one considers to be beneficial for humans, or what is more helpful to them to reach what they desire. If so, that would be easier to answer. If i would stick with basic things, or general concepts without going much into detail, then really, i think knowledge and compassion can cover most of what humans need and tend to desire.

By 'what humans need and tend desire' i mean happiness, welfare, prosperity etc. If we want to go more detailed than that, i think it'd be a very long list.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
I have no qualms with purely selfish religions, to each their own!
These two lines from Dhammapada 12 highlight Buddhism's personal responsibility for personal development and how to address mankind with goodness.
165. By oneself is evil done; by oneself is one defiled. By oneself is evil left undone; by oneself is one made pure. Purity and impurity depend on oneself; no one can purify another.

166. Let one not neglect one's own welfare for the sake of another, however great. Clearly understanding one's own welfare, let one be intent upon the good.
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
Very simple an open debate is encouraged.

Personally, I want individuals to truly have knowledge about themselves and the world around them (knowledge, as in based on actual reasoning and science).
And I want a jini to come out of every early medieval Islamic lamp I dust after retrieving it in excavation.
Along with that, people should find the proper place for themselves in the world and help better humanity through educating the species on how to do all the above.
I agree with the idea that people should take it easy and learn to enjoy themselves while building a good life for themselves at the same time, in addition I believe that education is very important in order to creat healthy individuals and society, however I disagree with the possibility that religion (or any ism) has special status in bringing that about. Although it could be an important part of it.

As for my philosophy, I believe we need to understand ourselves and take the time to understand others, to be informed and make effort to take productive choices that will result in better circumstances for us and for others. One aspect of this is recognizing other people, giving them space, maybe make an honest attempt to understand where they are coming from.
 

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
Very simple an open debate is encouraged.

Personally, I want individuals to truly have knowledge about themselves and the world around them (knowledge, as in based on actual reasoning and science). Along with that, people should find the proper place for themselves in the world and help better humanity through educating the species on how to do all the above.

Peace be on you.
Goals of Ahmadiyya Muslims [who distintinctly believe that latter days' spiritual reformer has come within Islam and now there is no need for religious wars because no one wage war with Islam. This is the time for moral and spiritual reformation of self] for humanity:
1-Humanity get nearness of God, pay His dues.
2-Humanity pay dues of each other.
3-Learn knowledge for peace.
4-Lift the fallen ones.
5-Train the raw-self to rise to moral-state and then to peace-with-God stage.
 

Sees

Dragonslayer
...One aspect of this is recognizing other people, giving them space, maybe make an honest attempt to understand where they are coming from.

I think this is a very good thing. It's my usual attempt when dealing with dangerous/aggressive/"_______" drivers on the road or general unsavoriness with others. For sanity and peace, I assume they have an emergency situation or just lost a job or loved one. Brush it off, smile and keep going.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
I think this is a very good thing. It's my usual attempt when dealing with dangerous/aggressive/"_______" drivers on the road or general unsavoriness with others. For sanity and peace, I assume they have an emergency situation or just lost a job or loved one. Brush it off, smile and keep going.
It can be especially difficult dealing with the drivers who continually drive through your living room and do brodies on your lawn. This is where goals for humanity might come in.
 

Sees

Dragonslayer
It can be especially difficult dealing with the drivers who continually drive through your living room and do brodies on your lawn. This is where goals for humanity might come in.

:eek: that would be at the edge for me
 

Adept

Member
I think this is a very good thing. It's my usual attempt when dealing with dangerous/aggressive/"_______" drivers on the road or general unsavoriness with others. For sanity and peace, I assume they have an emergency situation or just lost a job or loved one. Brush it off, smile and keep going.

I live by a hospital and these drivers never made the turn, so it never worked for me. I'm more of a realist, I just tell myself they're being *** holes and there's no reason they should bother me.
 

illykitty

RF's pet cat
I don't really belong to a particular religion but my goals are to strive to become the best "me" I can be.

Sounds like a self-oriented way of thinking but I see it as if I can become a better person, then that can impact on others and just make life more pleasant.

If less people pointed out other's flaws and instead spent that energy bettering themselves then I'd imagine there would be more harmony.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I have no qualms with purely selfish religions, to each their own!

Well, it's not that my religion is egocentric. I respond the way I did because my religion recognizes that different organisms have different goals and it is not sensible to me to propose some singular goal that every single organism of a given species should reach for. That smells of the One True Way religions, of which mine is not.
 

Adept

Member
Well, it's not that my religion is egocentric. I respond the way I did because my religion recognizes that different organisms have different goals and it is not sensible to me to propose some singular goal that every single organism of a given species should reach for. That smells of the One True Way religions, of which mine is not.

So you have no hopes for humanity because doing so would be in the vein of "one true religion"? I disagree, you even say people have different goals and you respect that, you're against one true religion, therefore one of your goals is (logically) to allow others to follow their own goals.
 

Clarity

Active Member
Very simple an open debate is encouraged.

Personally, I want individuals to truly have knowledge about themselves and the world around them (knowledge, as in based on actual reasoning and science). Along with that, people should find the proper place for themselves in the world and help better humanity through educating the species on how to do all the above.

My interpretation of God's goal for mankind is that he wants to have a family. We were created for that purpose.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
So you have no hopes for humanity because doing so would be in the vein of "one true religion"?

Asking if someone has "hopes" for humanity and if one has "goals" for humanity are two entirely different questions. This would not be a correct representation of my thoughts given that.

I have no goals for humanity for the reason I said initially: the path humanity treads is neither my decision to make nor within my power to enforce. I am not the grain of sand that thinks it can transform the entire beach. Nor am I the grain of sand that thinks the entire beach should move in the same direction as itself.

I disagree, you even say people have different goals and you respect that, you're against one true religion

I'm against only insofar that it is not my path. I'm not sure I would say I am "against" one true religionists in the broad sense you perhaps mean here, because I am not interested in exterminating them or their ideas.

therefore one of your goals is (logically) to allow others to follow their own goals.

Well, I'd be kidding myself if I thought my behaviors and actions didn't in any way influence anything. However, as a determinist, I don't really see it as a matter of "allowing." Things will unfold as they were fated to; things will be as they are, as it is how they must be. Things walk the past they must walk.
 
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