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When a monument gets to a point it's worth killing and dying for.

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's a double-edged sword here. There's no one side to it.

Armed activists at San Jacinto Monument vow to use force to defend Texas landmarks

Make no mistake. The zeal to protect a monument is the same as the zeal it takes to destroy it.

The question remains how far are people willing to go?

That's whats being put to the test now in San Jacinto.

Let's hope for both sides sake that wisdom is the better part of valor.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Wanting to have a statue that celebrates a rather shameful event or person and that was made a significant time after the fact removed from government/public land is reasonable.
Wanting to murder people to defend some tacky participation trophy isn't reasonable.

Btw, a while back didn't you made a thread that portrayed armed black citizens who were defending a lawmaker from protesters as thugs? But these guys get a pass? It couldn't be because of race, could it?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It's a double-edged sword here. There's no one side to it.

Armed activists at San Jacinto Monument vow to use force to defend Texas landmarks

Make no mistake. The zeal to protect a monument is the same as the zeal it takes to destroy it.

The question remains how far are people willing to go?

That's whats being put to the test now in San Jacinto.

Let's hope for both sides sake that wisdom is the better part of valor.
In the movies vigilantes are awesome. In the real world vigilantism is condemnable at best.
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
In the movies vigilantes are awesome. In the real world vigilantism is condemnable at best.
Well, depends what the vigilantes are fighting for. I they are like the Punisher, killing those who murder, sell drugs, rape etc, and avoid innocent casualties then I am fine with them. If the vigilante wants to destroy monuments or protect them then it tells me that the vigilante probably has his priorities messed up.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
It's a double-edged sword here. There's no one side to it.

Armed activists at San Jacinto Monument vow to use force to defend Texas landmarks

Make no mistake. The zeal to protect a monument is the same as the zeal it takes to destroy it.

The question remains how far are people willing to go?

That's whats being put to the test now in San Jacinto.

Let's hope for both sides sake that wisdom is the better part of valor.

Well, I think it's a bit too much to get worked up over a monument. Certainly not worth killing or dying for.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Make no mistake. The zeal to protect a monument is the same as the zeal it takes to destroy it.
Sure. Racists get passionate about their racism.

And when someone has built their strategy to get ahead in life around benefiting from a racist status quo instead of, you know, developing skills or character, threats to that racist status quo are threats to their own standard of living, if not their actual well-being.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Wanting to have a statue that celebrates a rather shameful event or person and that was made a significant time after the fact removed from government/public land is reasonable.
Wanting to murder people to defend some tacky participation trophy isn't reasonable.

Btw, a while back didn't you made a thread that portrayed armed black citizens who were defending a lawmaker from protesters as thugs? But these guys get a pass? It couldn't be because of race, could it?
Hey it's just as bad when people want to attack that tacky participation trophy.

After all that's what it is, right? So why take it seriously?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Well, I think it's a bit too much to get worked up over a monument. Certainly not worth killing or dying for.
I certainly agree with that.

Unfortunately there are people that don't on both sides of the issue.

I say let them both smack the s*** out of each other.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Wanting to have a statue that celebrates a rather shameful event or person and that was made a significant time after the fact removed from government/public land is reasonable.
Wanting to murder people to defend some tacky participation trophy isn't reasonable.

Btw, a while back didn't you made a thread that portrayed armed black citizens who were defending a lawmaker from protesters as thugs? But these guys get a pass? It couldn't be because of race, could it?
Oh yea. 'The Boyzs from da Hood' . Who could forget that? As long as they're not violent, anybody could practice their second amendment rights.

And hey, nobody got shot.

Win-win.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Hey it's just as bad when people want to attack that tacky participation trophy.

After all that's what it is, right? So why take it seriously?

So wanting something removed because it's not worthy of being on government/public land nor funded by tax dollars is the same as wanting to murder over it? Get real, squirt.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Oh yea. 'The Boyzs from da Hood' . Who could forget that? As long as they're not violent, anybody could practice their second amendment rights.

And hey, nobody got shot.

Win-win.

But why is one side dangerous gangstas in your eyes while the other are honorable patriots?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
In the movies vigilantes are awesome. In the real world vigilantism is condemnable at best.
Not always so.
The media & foes of self-defense love to portray vigilanties as naught
but lynch mobs. Why? Demonization sells news. And statist types
want their government to have sole power to defend & protect.
So positive examples of vigilantism aren't newsworthy. For example,
few know of Korean store owners's armed defense in Los Angeles riots.
 

Ponder This

Well-Known Member
It's a double-edged sword here. There's no one side to it.

Armed activists at San Jacinto Monument vow to use force to defend Texas landmarks

Make no mistake. The zeal to protect a monument is the same as the zeal it takes to destroy it.

The question remains how far are people willing to go?

That's whats being put to the test now in San Jacinto.

Let's hope for both sides sake that wisdom is the better part of valor.

Um... I can't find anything about anyone anywhere wanting to removing an octagonal masonry column from San Jacinto... that commemorates the decisive battle of the Texas Revolution.

Very easy to defend... when there are no attackers. Did anitifa make a threat somewhere?

Still, it's fun to see some of the knee-jerk responses you got in this thread. Oh the shame. Oh the racism. of defending... a masonry column. o_O
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
It's a double-edged sword here. There's no one side to it.

Armed activists at San Jacinto Monument vow to use force to defend Texas landmarks

Make no mistake. The zeal to protect a monument is the same as the zeal it takes to destroy it.

The question remains how far are people willing to go?

That's whats being put to the test now in San Jacinto.

Let's hope for both sides sake that wisdom is the better part of valor.

I don't have much attachment to the past. These are not even relatives. Keep them up, tear them down. They have no beneficial meaning in my life.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I don't have much attachment to the past. These are not even relatives. Keep them up, tear them down. They have no beneficial meaning in my life.
I had felt the same way in the past.

History didn't hold no meaning to me either, but I actually am starting to see the value of it because it's supposed to give people a sense of perspective and reflection and provides a way to avoid making mistakes and to see what can be improved.

But I get it why you say that.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I had felt the same way in the past.

History didn't hold no meaning to me either, but I actually am starting to see the value of it because it's supposed to give people a sense of perspective and reflection and provides a way to avoid making mistakes and to see what can be improved.

But I get it why you say that.

What's improved? :D

Whichever way society heads, someone is going to find something to complain about.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
So wanting something removed because it's not worthy of being on government/public land nor funded by tax dollars is the same as wanting to murder over it? Get real, squirt.
I think those people over there might just make it real.

You could also ask if it's equally worthy in attacking it?
 
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