when does reincarnation happen?

[Vrindavana Das]

Dear Vrindavan Ji,
Many thanks for the insight in this complex issue. So we take it that if we remember God while dying we shall be God Himself in the next birth.
Please confirm.

Yes. If one remembers God while dying, he will attain God without fail. That is why it is said that this life is a preparation for the next. Whatever we are used to thinking of all our lives will come to our minds at the time of death. That is why, one should constantly think, serve remember God, so that he can remember God at the time of death and make his life a success.

 

[Madhuri]

Yes. If one remembers God while dying, he will attain God without fail. That is why it is said that this life is a preparation for the next. Whatever we are used to thinking of all our lives will come to our minds at the time of death. That is why, one should constantly think, serve remember God, so that he can remember God at the time of death and make his life a success.

I would like to support this post by emphasising the point about centering one's life on God.

You cannot expect to spend your whole life indulging in materialistic activities but then suddenly think of God at the time of death and be 'saved'. What comes to us at the time of death is a reflection of what has been most important to us throughout our life.

In addition, the idea that we go to God by thinking of God at the time of death is part of the idea that the soul is attracted to what the consciousness is most influenced by. That is why if the consciousness is filled with material impressions and attachments, the soul will be attracted back into the material body. But if the consciousness is filled with the Divine then the soul will go to the Divine.

 

[Vinayaka]

dear vinayaka ,

jai jai , many would say what an amasing story , except if you spend much time amongst indians and tibetans who are allways coming up with accounts of happenings like this
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You are so correct. Yes it is very cultural. The Inuit of Canada knew it so well they gave the souls the same names as they had in previous births. It is just normal behaviour in some non-western cultures.

Their 'operating system' has different programming, far more intuitive than intellectual.

The west is gridded in: intellect, doubt, questioning, and a good/bad consciousness. So we should not be surprised at the reaction, or non-reaction.

 

[Maya3]

Love all your comments!
I'm away for the weekend and only have my iPhone, I write more on Tuesday.

Maya

 

[Maya3]

Vanakkam,

This is very interesting question, I have been wondering the same thing but...Not on the same side !

I don't know exactly "when" a soul enter a body, I don't remember much thing from any past time But the relationship and the feelings a mother have, like Vinayakaji described, when she is pregnant is sure a sign. The sound of water, some posture, also have impact on childrens and adults as they consciously or inconsciously remind the womb....So there must be some kind of consicousness in here =0 Like Sri Vishnuji sleeping, in the state where He dream the next world, maybe we are like that in the womb, dreaming our next life ?


I was wondering about when you die ! There have been very much testimonies from people that experienced death, or near death experiences. Those people are from all around the world, events scientifically witnessed, so I personnaly give credits to their sayings. But this confuse me regarding reincarnation ! Since almost all of that people said they were feeling bliss, light, and saw dead relatives/animals dear to them !


I though at the time of death only the Atman remain, which is not our appearance/personality/ego. And at the time of next life, only the atman enter a new body and make new life, ego, physical features....

...But why do these people saw dead relatives while experiencing death/near death ? I mean, they shouldn't have their ex-physical appearance, or even be there as they should be merged with Brahman or in another body

Reincarnation is not very much discussed, I don't really know why, as it is a very interesting topic that can help understanding more how everything works


Aum Namah Shivaya

I wonder about when you die too and you see your dead relatives. I have an aunt who was very sick in the hospital. She said that she saw her whole family come in to the hospital room to take a look. They all shook their heads and left again, telling her that it wasn´t her time yet.
She lived for many years after that, and when her husband died she was very calm about it. Being completely convinced that he was waiting for her on the other side.

It is such a comforting thought, but I´m not so sure I believe it. Don´t you move on after death? Either to a new body or a time of recharging with the energy for a while before you do so?

Still maybe you could do both?

Maya

 

[Maya3]

I would like to support this post by emphasising the point about centering one's life on God.

You cannot expect to spend your whole life indulging in materialistic activities but then suddenly think of God at the time of death and be 'saved'. What comes to us at the time of death is a reflection of what has been most important to us throughout our life.

In addition, the idea that we go to God by thinking of God at the time of death is part of the idea that the soul is attracted to what the consciousness is most influenced by. That is why if the consciousness is filled with material impressions and attachments, the soul will be attracted back into the material body. But if the consciousness is filled with the Divine then the soul will go to the Divine.

Yes, I agree with this.

It's all about our knowledge and our ability to understand what is important.

Maya

 

[Valjean]

Where have these speculations been tested? Where have they been subjected to scientific scrutiny?

You can trade religious citations and traditions till the sacred cows come home, hut without some reproducible evidence -- outside of individual experience -- this is all just a self-gratifying exercise in citation slinging.

 

[Vinayaka]

Seyorni, no one here is asking you to believe it. I'm not asking you to anyway. In fact, I suspect 99% of people don't believe in these 'speculations'. In history, some scientists were burnt at the stake for their 'speculations', like the world is not flat. The mass's belief in a flat earth didn't mean it was flat.

I think the OP was asking when reincarnation happens, and now he/she has several opinions from which to decide from. Certainly it wasn't 'if reicarnation happens'.

 

[ratikala]

dear incredulous one ,

forgive me if I am wrong but this is hindu dir , and do most hindus not belive in reincarnation ?

Where have these speculations been tested? Where have they been subjected to scientific scrutiny?

science can analise only matter , and prehaps detect vibrations caused by matter .
reincarnation and the energies envolved exist on a level much too subtle for science to reliably identify .
however there are accounts of past life experiences still inexplicable by science , which science chooses to dismiss purely as it has found no material evidence . finding no evidence proves nothing except that science is limmited and still in its infancy

You can trade religious citations and traditions till the sacred cows come home, hut without some reproducible evidence -- outside of individual experience -- this is all just a self-gratifying exercise in citation slinging.

it may appear so to you ?
but we were happily exchanging thoughts on a subject which is of more than flipant interest to those of dharmic faith ,


I do not understand the need to interject in a subject you have no respect for , you do not see me posting in the science saying that I find science to be a self gratifying excercise in proof accerting !:no:

 

[Maya3]

No one can prove the existence of God or reincarnation or anything else, if someone could we probably would not sit here right now discussing it.

Maya

 

[Onkara]

No one can prove the existence of God or reincarnation or anything else, if someone could we probably would not sit here right now discussing it.

Maya

I agree. The issue is not proof but reasoning. There is reasoning for reincarnation.

 

[George-ananda]

When do you think a soul enters the baby´s body?
Is it at conception, or once the baby is fully formed? Or at birth?

Maya

I think it attaches loosely during the first formative months. At first the soul is still more concerned with its own plane of experience but shortly before birth it fully accepts the new experience (but doesn't like the limitations placed on it again; but accepts with a 'I chose this to learn' sense of duty).

 

[SaintAugustine]

I wonder about when you die too and you see your dead relatives. I have an aunt who was very sick in the hospital. She said that she saw her whole family come in to the hospital room to take a look. They all shook their heads and left again, telling her that it wasn´t her time yet.
She lived for many years after that, and when her husband died she was very calm about it. Being completely convinced that he was waiting for her on the other side.

It is such a comforting thought, but I´m not so sure I believe it. Don´t you move on after death? Either to a new body or a time of recharging with the energy for a while before you do so?

Still maybe you could do both?

Maya

my grandfather had a similiar experience laying in bed...was visited by long gone family memebers..he did die...eventually at the hosptial.