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When Religions and Ideologies Become Immoral

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
There is a certain kind of immorality that it seems relatively few people pay much attention to. It has no proper name, but it is common enough. One sometimes comes across examples of it on a daily basis.

The nature of this immoral behavior is to place a religious, political, social, or economic ideology or belief system above actual people such that some unjust harm is inflicted on them.

Jiddu Krishnamurti once gave a subtle example of this immoral behavior. He and his brother were returning to India after years at university in England. Their father was to meet them at the airport. However, their father had learned that the brothers had sampled meat while in England. Consequently, despite years of absence from his sons, her refused to show them any affection upon their return.

Please note that the only justification the father had for his behavior was allegiance to an ideology that stated his sons had become polluted by sampling a small quantity of meat, and that he too would risk becoming polluted if he came into physical contract with them. But the father had no weight of empirical evidence supported by logical reasoning for his views. And even if he had had such, to which does a father owe greater allegiance? To his sons, or to his ideologies? If his ideologies, then what sort of ideology takes precedence over actual flesh and blood? Surely not a moral one.

Krishnamurti's case may seem trivial, but it illustrates a much greater principle. A principle one finds applies to much more horrendous things than refusing to show affection to one's sons.

Can not the same be said of genocides committed for ideological reasons as acts of personal cruelty committed for ideological reasons?

And are there not many acts, both great and small, in which someone behaves immorally by inflicting an unjust harm or injury upon someone else solely because they value a religious, political, social, or economic ideology above human lives and well-being?

Tortuous essays denouncing newly discovered public villains ? Cute things your child or grandchild said today? Exaggerated accounts of sexual expertise? Questions? Comments?
 

PureX

Veteran Member
An unreasonable or overwhelming fear of being seen or found to be 'in the wrong' creates an obsession with being seen or seeing oneself as being 'in the right'. Dr. Phil called them "right-fighters". I tend to think of them as righteousness junkies: people who have become so obsessed/addicted to the idea of their own righteousness that they are destroying their lives, their families, their communities, and even their country to protect and maintain it. They would rather kill, or be killed in the name of their own righteousness, then be 'wrong'.

It's a sad phenomena that unscrupulous businesses, politicians, religious leaders, and many others have long ago learned to stir up in people, and use to manipulate them to their own ends. And there is no cure or prevention for it except self-awareness. The very thing that these righteousness junkies fear, most.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
The nature of this immoral behavior is to place a religious, political, social, or economic ideology or belief system above actual people such that some unjust harm is inflicted on them.

This seems all to common in religious circles and of course everywhere else too. I think it's more glaring to me in religious contexts because religious folks often claim to occupy the moral high ground.
 

Thermos aquaticus

Well-Known Member
The nature of this immoral behavior is to place a religious, political, social, or economic ideology or belief system above actual people such that some unjust harm is inflicted on them.

Agreed. This is what happens when people start with the belief that humans are incapable of correctly determining morality on their own and instead rely on what they believe to be a deity who holds an absolute and true morality. The same applies to ideologies, examples of which would violate Godwin's Law.
 
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