When science goes gibberish; what does it indicate?

[TagliatelliMonster]

When science goes gibberish; what does it indicate?

That you need to read up.

 

[paarsurrey]

When science goes gibberish; what does it indicate?

One may like to read my post #18 , which shows that even some or many or most scientists are not appropriately equipped to understand sometimes or many times or most of the times cannot understand science when it gets gibberish, as it goes gibberish to the common man or the ordinary man in the street, I have get to know, please. Hope the friends here don't differ with me, please? Right?

Regards

 

[tas8831]

Open for discussion for the Theists and the Atheists alike.
Regards

Example?

 

[tas8831]

that the use of long words endows a person with social status because we don't understand what they are saying?

Why should all professions and all professionals only use words that non-professionals will understand?

 

[sayak83]

When science goes gibberish; what does it indicate?

One may like to read my post #18 , which shows that even some or many or most scientists are not appropriately equipped to understand sometimes or many times or most of the times cannot understand science when it gets gibberish, as it goes gibberish to the common man or the ordinary man in the street, I have get to know, please. Hope the friends here don't differ with me, please? Right?

Regards

It simply means that reality does not conform to the naive models of humans that common language and it's words are used to represent.

 

[RestlessSoul]

It simply means that reality does not conform to the naive models of humans that common language and it's words are used to represent.

Sometimes we ask too much of language. But some individuals do deliberately obfuscate, with the intent of hiding ignorance behind ambiguity. It can serve one's interests to be calculatedly obscure, in areas where clarity is neither available nor attainable.

 

[ppp]

Sometimes we ask too much of language. But some individuals do deliberately obfuscate, with the intent of hiding ignorance behind ambiguity. It can serve one's interests to be calculatedly obscure, in areas where clarity is neither available nor attainable.

That is vague innuendo.some individuals somewher obfuscate something somehow.

But the fact of the matter is that the subjects that you do not study require better tools to accurately discuss than your casual layperson's vocabulary and surface level comprehension of the subject.

Simple questions can often not be satisfied by simple answers that conform to your desultory level of understanding.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Funny how the guilty are triggered by truth.

 

[RestlessSoul]

That is vague innuendo.some individuals somewher obfuscate something somehow.

But the fact of the matter is that the subjects that you do not study require better tools to accurately discuss than your casual layperson's vocabulary and surface level comprehension of the subject.

Simple questions can often not be satisfied by simple answers that conform to your desultory level of understanding.

"Things should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."
- Albert Einstein

 

[ppp]

"Things should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."
- Albert Einstein

I agree. That comports well with what I said.

 

[RestlessSoul]

I agree. That comports well with what I said.

As it does with the observation of mine, which you took issue with. Okay then, so we are agreed on something. See how easy it is to find common ground, even with someone who sees many things differently to you?

 

[ppp]

Sometimes we ask too much of language. But some individuals do deliberately obfuscate, with the intent of hiding ignorance behind ambiguity. It can serve one's interests to be calculatedly obscure, in areas where clarity is neither available nor attainable.

As it does with the observation of mine, which you took issue with.

I don't know why you would think that. What you said was just vague inuendo about unspecified individuals being nefarious in unspecified ways at an unspecified time, and an unspecified place. It was not very specific.

What Einstein said was a corollary to Occam's Razor, "Don't multiply entities unnecessarily." Not the related at all.

 

[RestlessSoul]

I don't know why you would think that. What you said was just vague inuendo about unspecified individuals being nefarious in unspecified ways at an unspecified time, and an unspecified place. It was not very specific.

What Einstein said was a corollary to Occam's Razor, "Don't multiply entities unnecessarily." Not the related at all.

Okay then. As ever, you will see what you want to see, and only that.

 

[sayak83]

Sometimes we ask too much of language. But some individuals do deliberately obfuscate, with the intent of hiding ignorance behind ambiguity. It can serve one's interests to be calculatedly obscure, in areas where clarity is neither available nor attainable.

Both are true. So we have to go into specifics of which is true where. Most of hard sciences is mathematical and there is no sharper and precise language than maths.

 

[ppp]

Okay then. As ever, you will see what you want to see, and only that.

If I only see what I want to see, then why don't I see the world as I want it to be?

 

[RestlessSoul]

If I only see what I want to see, then why don't I see the world as I want it to be?

Perhaps because you don’t know what you want?

 

[ppp]

Both are true. So we have to go into specifics of which is true where. Most of hard sciences is mathematical and there is no sharper and precise language than maths.

Exactly. And sometimes the processes of our universe cannot be accurately described by common words. Or by words at all. Hence, mathematics.

 

[ppp]

Perhaps because you don’t know what you want?

That is sometimes true. For everyone, I suspect.

Never the less, there are many things that I do know that I want, which are not. And things that I definitely do not want, which are. Of this, there is no question.