When You Say You Love God, What does it Mean?

[Unveiled Artist]

I just called you a poet God would be impersonal if i took away his personality; the 'him'. The reason he has a form is for us. I cannot properly love something that has no form. This whole conversation is assuming my love for God is not real. I don't understand the point of your argument. A true folly is trying to understand God.

Speaking hypothetically, but here are my points...

If a believer took a placebo affect, that source of what they experience is not real not the affect.

So, if that believer feels love, that love is real. The source is not.

The first point: He doesn't know it and that isn't wrong.

The second point, I don't see how it is wrong that believers are using an idea of god (source) and projecting from idea to where real experiences-like love-are felt.

Unless believers feel that without having a real source, it won't produce real affects? They can't benefit from an idea of god? If that is true, I can't argue against it. People's lives have been changed by belief in god.

My next point, I do think the OP quote has a point but I would never call it a believers' imaginations and would never consider the affect of believing in god (ideal or not) is not real love.



My personal belief is everything comes from the mind. So, even though I don't care for the terminology the OP quote used, actually more of an insult rather than an opinion, I see his point. If we acknowledge that our views of god and experiences are interpreted from the mind (inside out not inside outside in), we may have more insight of how to define god (if so be) or experience god. The belief would no longer be a belief but a fact. Why? Because we know its origin, how it affects us, and how our experiences better us.

The Buddha says we live in a delusional world. He probably said that to the people of his day, but I'm not going around the bush, I believe we do but I never would call people delusional.

 

[Terese]

Speaking hypothetically, but here are my points...

If a believer took a placebo affect, that source of what they experience is not real not the affect.

So, if that believer feels love, that love is real. The source is not.

The first point: He doesn't know it and that isn't wrong.

The second point, I don't see how it is wrong that believers are using an idea of god (source) and projecting from idea to where real experiences-like love-are felt.

Unless believers feel that without having a real source, it won't produce real affects? They can't benefit from an idea of god? If that is true, I can't argue against it. People's lives have been changed by belief in god.

My next point, I do think the OP quote has a point but I would never call it a believers' imaginations and would never consider the affect of believing in god (ideal or not) is not real love.



My personal belief is everything comes from the mind. So, even though I don't care for the terminology the OP quote used, actually more of an insult rather than an opinion, I see his point. If we acknowledge that our views of god and experiences are interpreted from the mind (inside out not inside outside in), we may have more insight of how to define god (if so be) or experience god. The belief would no longer be a belief but a fact. Why? Because we know its origin, how it affects us, and how our experiences better us.

The Buddha says we live in a delusional world. He probably said that to the people of his day, but I'm not going around the bush, I believe we do but I never would call people delusional.

Must I answer? Your post is less of a question to me, and more of your thoughts. Not that is wrong

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Must I answer? Your post is less of a question to me, and more of your thoughts. Not that is wrong

Pretty much. I'd probably end up rephrasing my reply anyway. As long as you understand where I come from, I'm good.

 

[atanu]

When You Say You Love God, What does it Mean?
According to Jiddu Krishnamurti:
Do you think Krishnamurti has a point? Why or why not?

Jidda is speaking of one perspective suitable for his followers. I think I can provide here two more perspectives.

a) When we say we love another person what does that mean? One loves one's partner who shares and mitigates one's worries and gives pleasure, for example, by sharing the pleasure of orgasm. But what are we actually loving?

Love of God is similar .. the love that brings peace to us. Or we love that which brings joy and peace to us.

b) Suppose I bite my tongue. Will I punish my teeth for causing pain to my tongue? No. We love all parts of ours as dearly as we love ourselves, because the love is eventually of the one 'me'. Similarly, when the realisation dawns that God is that which pervades as essence all varieties of the universe -- when the absolute one-ness has been experienced -- there can remain nothing but love.
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[zahra67]

According to Jiddu Krishnamurti:



Do you think Krishnamurti has a point? Why or why not?

hi.
in the holy quran, chapter 2, verse 152, the all merciful God says:
Therefore remember Me, I will remember you, and be thankful to Me, and do not be ungrateful to Me

and also in one part of verse 165 of this chapter we read:
And there are some among men who take for themselves objects of worship besides Allah, whom they love as they love Allah, and those who believe are stronger in love for Allah.

in chapter 3, verse 31, the all merciful God says:

Say: If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
according to islam, God's love is: faith in God, obeying his command, gratitude for his bounties and favors, love for the prophet and his progeny and strive to follow them, and helping the servants of God.

 

[DawudTalut]

.......If you exchange god and placed the word "life" in its place, it would still be the same. Life has directives and our purpose is to help others as well as ourselves........

Peace be on you.
When people tried:
God-less morals [morals taught by life], you can see results in certain societies. Those ideologies did not work, though China is still trying with some variation. There are more examples too......But unfortunately, there are examples from countries which mixed God-given morals with their own selfish-extremist agendas and bringing ill-repute to God-given morals.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Peace be on you.
When people tried:
God-less morals [morals taught by life], you can see results in certain societies. Those ideologies did not work, though China is still trying with some variation. There are more examples too......But unfortunately, there are examples from countries which mixed God-given morals with their own selfish-extremist agendas and bringing ill-repute to God-given morals.

I guess from a religious perspective, that may be true. I usually put it in this way-helps me stay sane watching the news. If "society" is running on godless morals, and I am part of this society, what is that saying about me and thousands of people who have godless morals but do well without what you see on the news?

Isn't that somewhat saying that people (like myself) who do not believe in god do not have good morals because based on society (rather than each of us individually) has gone bad?

In other words, isn't that judging individuals with morals that are godless based on the rest of society?

 

[ronandcarol]

When You Say You Love God, What does it Mean?
It means that your head and your heart are focused on the One and Only God that created you and sustains you each and everyday you live. Your love and devotion should be directed to God first and foremost.

ronandcarol

 

[psychoslice]

For me to say I love God is to love my Self, and everyone and everything else.