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Where Are You Actually From?

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Living in southern AZ, it gets hot here, too. But having spent some time in Houston and New Orleans, both hot and humid, when we say "at least it's a dry heat," it's no joke. And we don't get hurricanes or tornadoes here either.
I've stayed for three weeks twice in Phoenix and Tucson, and I do agree with you about the heat-- although that does not stop me.

The first time in a hot & dry area for me was in 1991, which was my first trip to Israel. However, it wasn't the heat that got to me but the constant & intense sunlight. After a couple of weeks, I prayed for a cloudy day but never saw a single cloud until I got back to Michigan.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
Where you are from is where you grew up.

I'm happy to call someone Scottish if they live here and call themselves Scottish. Americans with Scottish heritage are American unless they live here.
 

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
How do you determine this?
Is this identity important to you?
If you move to Italy, for example, can you then claim to be Italian regardless of where your ancestors come from? What about your kids, if they are born in Italy?

I usually say I am Irish because that is where the majority of my DNA comes from. However I also have Scandinavian, Finnish and Native American DNA.

When I lived in Australia they called me the American because of my accent. Do they get to decide?

Do I get to choose any one of these to identify with?
I'm actually from the Midlands in England. Determined by the fact I was born here. This fact is completely irrelevant to me, don't know why it would be relevant. I identify as human. Ancestors? No idea beyond being English (presumably, never looked into it).
 

Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you

Where Are You Actually From?​

From my mother
How do you determine this?
I don’t determine that
Is this identity important to you?
Let me think.
That I come from my mother has great impact on what I’m like (biologically, socially, emotionally). Yet, it’s not a huge part of my own "identity" because I don’t really identify myself through my mother. So no, I’d have to say that where I come from does not feel like an important part of my identity.

And, it is a true mystery to me why it should be of significance to anyone at all where my mother happened to be when she gave birth to me.


Humbly,
Hermit
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
How do you determine this?
Is this identity important to you?
If you move to Italy, for example, can you then claim to be Italian regardless of where your ancestors come from? What about your kids, if they are born in Italy?

I usually say I am Irish because that is where the majority of my DNA comes from. However I also have Scandinavian, Finnish and Native American DNA.

When I lived in Australia they called me the American because of my accent. Do they get to decide?

Do I get to choose any one of these to identify with?
There are things that are determined by biological origin and nature.

I fail to see how nationality could be at once meaningful and also among those things biologically determined.

Nationality has very little meaning, but what little it has is unavoidably motivational and emotional in nature.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
Could have been worse, could have been from Glasgee.
A lot of Glaswegians have adopted a kind of softened, non-regional dialect and pronunciation. We call it the "West End", "Glasgow Uni" or "Glamerican" accent. It has more international appeal but listening to it feels like having my toes grated.

I sound exactly like I was raised on a council estate in the central belt. Even the Geordies have difficulty understanding me.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
How do you determine this?
Is this identity important to you?
If you move to Italy, for example, can you then claim to be Italian regardless of where your ancestors come from? What about your kids, if they are born in Italy?

I usually say I am Irish because that is where the majority of my DNA comes from. However I also have Scandinavian, Finnish and Native American DNA.

When I lived in Australia they called me the American because of my accent. Do they get to decide?

Do I get to choose any one of these to identify with?
Sure you can choose because it doesn't matter in reality, those countries you speak of won't exist 1000 years from now. Its only a pride thing for people of today so be proud in whatever you want.

I do not mean this is a bad way. I love researching my family history and I am proud to say I am a European Mutt as My Grandparents are from 4 different European countries. Lithuania, Holland, Ireland and France. If you go by DNA my highest concentration at 30 % is Ireland.
 

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
A lot of Glaswegians have adopted a kind of softened, non-regional dialect and pronunciation. We call it the "West End", "Glasgow Uni" or "Glamerican" accent. It has more international appeal but listening to it feels like having my toes grated.

I sound exactly like I was raised on a council estate in the central belt. Even the Geordies have difficulty understanding me.
When I first started watching Rab C. Nesbitt I felt the need for subtitles!
 
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