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nPeace

Veteran Member
So how does the Holy Spirit affect things in the universe? What is the mechanism?



What is this energy or force? What field does it interact with? What particles are associated with this force? The electromagnetic force interacts through photons. The weak force interacts through the W and Z bosons. So how does the Holy Spirit work?
I'm no scientist, but do scientists know of all the energy that exists?
Maybe you know... 5:33
 
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nPeace

Veteran Member
You would be incorrect-- by definition, magic is beyond the natural, which is also the very definition of supernatural.

The two are one and the same: All gods require magic to even exist at all.
I don't think you are getting it.
Magicians perform magic.
Supernaturals don't.
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
I don't think you are getting it.
Magicians perform magic.
Supernaturals don't.

LMAO! Go look up the definition of "magic". Yes-- there is more than one.

I'm referring to Magic as in the Harry Potter fictional universe. Doing things outside of the bounds of Physics.

Supernatural, by definition? Is outside the bounds of Physics-- therefore? ALL supernatural is also MAGIC.

You worship a magical being.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
LMAO! Go look up the definition of "magic". Yes-- there is more than one.

I'm referring to Magic as in the Harry Potter fictional universe. Doing things outside of the bounds of Physics.

Supernatural, by definition? Is outside the bounds of Physics-- therefore? ALL supernatural is also MAGIC.

You worship a magical being.
noun: magic
1.
the power of apparently influencing the course of events by using mysterious or supernatural forces.
 

CLee421

Bible believing-Face painting-Musical Momma
Faith is the substance of things hoped for - evidence of things not seen.

Our faith - is enough for us. Because it's ours. Given to us personally somehow by the Creator Himself.

Our faith is a beacon - and sometimes others are drawn to it but often it's rejected. Hated. That's clear, since almost all the disciples were brutally murdered over....a belief. Over faith.

Faith - being a gift - was already "in" something (Someone) when I received it.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Scientists do know that an argument from ignorance is a logical fallacy.
Scientists seem to know so much, in your opinion. It's good that they admit that out of all they know, 99% of it could be wrong, and it's only 0.1% of all of what they don't know.

There are no particles, there are only fields

You are not made of particles
Is the universe made of fields or particles?
There are no particles, there are only fields

THERE ARE NO PARTICLES, AND THERE ARE NO FIELDS

The more scientists speak the tighter I hold on to my Bible.
Their religion is not mine. Their sermons lack substance, imo.

Doom and gloom
They know the earth will end, either in a big crunch, or a big freeze.

Pass the loot
So within the next million years they need to be off this planet - hence billions of dollars needed.
They know that they are this close to 'the theory of everything' - hence billions of dollars needed.

Either there is evidence for this proposed force or there is not.
Yes.
 
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Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
Scientists seem to know so much, in your opinion. It's good that they admit that out of all they know, 99% of it could be wrong, and it's only 0.1% of all of what they don't know.

There are no particles, there are only fields

You are not made of particles
Is the universe made of fields or particles?
There are no particles, there are only fields

THERE ARE NO PARTICLES, AND THERE ARE NO FIELDS

The more scientists speak the tighter I hold on to my Bible.
Their religion is not mine. Their sermons lack substance, imo.

Doom and gloom
They know the earth will end, either in a big crunch, or a big freeze.

Pass the loot
So within the next million years they need to be off this planet - hence billions of dollars needed.
They know that they are this close to 'the theory of everything' - hence billions of dollars needed.


Yes.

This is you-- nicely missing the entire point, as it wooshes just over your head...
 

Earthling

David Henson
Scientists don't make such "promises". However, science does produce more and better results than religion does. If you're sick, whose treatment would you consider to be more reliable; a doctor and his medicine or a priest and his prayers?

Religion has very little to do with God. God doesn't heal the sick and aged. God punished us with these things. Science attempts to remedy them. Which is the inevitable?
 

Earthling

David Henson
My faith is in Jehovah God. Why? Because he has proven himself to me and because, as he has said, man is bent upon his own destruction.
 
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