Where exactly is God?

[robo]

If God can cognitively listen to the prayers of 10 million human beings at once, you can pretty much assume He is everywhere. IOW, he knows your every thought.

The one place God is not in all of the universe and all dimensions, is hell.

It therefore follows that God cannot listen to prayers of those in hell, yes?

Therefore, what you are saying is the following - correct me if I am wrong -

Now, God is everywhere. He is EVERYWHERE on earth, he is on the Sun, he is in Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, Uranus (no pun intended, seriously), moon, etc.

BUT, come day of judgement, there is going to be within the universe some place called "HELL". Within this "HELL", God will not be there, yes?

Now, a bit of set theory - come the Day of Judgement, Universe - HELL = Heaven?

 

[robo]

I already have given you a definition and details

My brain is a couple of lb's of biological matter floating in my skull. My mind is that which thinks, perceives and acts.

Sorry, but this does not clear things up. Is mind = brain, per you? If not, what is the difference?

What about those people in coma. Is not God within them?

 

[robo]

God is everywhere. I don't believe in Hell.

Fair enough. This seems to accord with the definition of omnipresence.

 

[Storm]

What about those people in coma. Is not God within them?

Don't coma patients dream? Or did you mean the brain-dead?

 

[robo]

If you ask a Hindu, then yes God is everywhere including the hellish planets.

Fair enough. This seems to accord with the definition of omnipresence.

 

[BobbyisStrange]

If Hell is the absence of God...And if God exists and he is the God of Abraham...Then Hell would have to be a better place than Heaven.

 

[robo]

There is no dogma in New Thought, however the majority of New Thought adherents do not believe in a personified devil, and we do not believe in a physical place of eternal torment called hell, therefore God cannot be in hell since that place does not exist.

If hell does not exist, then ok, God cannot be in hell.

 

[Storm]

Fair enough. This seems to accord with the definition of omnipresence.

Well, I was actually a bit unclear. I'm a panentheist, and as Reverend Richard said, it would be more accurate to say that everywhere/ thing is God.

 

[robo]

Don't coma patients dream? Or did you mean the brain-dead?

I just wanted to know from stephenw what he thought was the relationship between mind and brain. He held that God is within his mind.

 

[BobbyisStrange]

Well if Hell does exist and people do indeed go their..If they have no concept of God or love...can they truly be punished? However if the concept of God exists in hell, then God would be in hell as well.

 

[Storm]

I just wanted to know from stephenw what he thought was the relationship between mind and brain. He held that God is within his mind.

At the risk of speaking for Stephen, I believe he's indulging in a touch of solipsism.

At any rate, I thought he made it clear that he does not conflate mind and brain.

 

[thau]

It therefore follows that God cannot listen to prayers of those in hell, yes?

Therefore, what you are saying is the following - correct me if I am wrong -

Now, God is everywhere. He is EVERYWHERE on earth, he is on the Sun, he is in Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, Uranus (no pun intended, seriously), moon, etc.

BUT, come day of judgement, there is going to be within the universe some place called "HELL". Within this "HELL", God will not be there, yes?

Now, a bit of set theory - come the Day of Judgement, Universe - HELL = Heaven?

Sorry, could not comprehend that last sentence or yours? But to try to elaborate on the rest, one definition of hell is "absence of God." So in that sense, God is not present in hell. Go read up on some of the saints and other eye witnesses allowed a brief visit to that cursed place.

Be that as it may, is this mystery really carry that much consequence compared to the ones like "What happens to me after I die?"

 

[thau]

If Hell is the absence of God...And if God exists and he is the God of Abraham...Then Hell would have to be a better place than Heaven.

Better to be stupid than defiant. I am trying to decide which of those two describes your statement above?

 

[Reverend Richard]

If hell does not exist, then ok, God cannot be in hell.

Again, I can only speak about the "non-existence" of hell from the perspective of New Thought. Many of our Christian brothers and sisters on this forum I am sure believe that hell does exist.

 

[Storm]

one definition of hell is "absence of God." So in that sense, God is not present in hell. Go read up on some of the saints and other eye witnesses allowed a brief visit to that cursed place.

A friendly word of advice: most folk here would rather hear your perspective.

Is that your understanding of Hell, or do you believe in the more common fire & brimstone place of torture?

 

[Aquitaine]

Again, I can only speak about the "non-existence" of hell from the perspective of New Thought. Many of our Christian brothers and sisters on this forum I am sure believe that hell does exist.

Just outta curiosity, you wouldn't happen to be thethe ReverendRick?

 

[BobbyisStrange]

Better to be stupid than defiant. I am trying to decide which of those two describes your statement above?

If the God of Abraham exists, this blood thirsty monster, that has killed millions of innocent people (men, women, children and babies) at his command...A god that plays mind games with followers such as Abraham and Job...A god that sacrifices his own child and a god that claims to love while simultaneously sends people to an eternal place of torment...Why would anyone want to serve that? Why would anyone want to spend eternity with that? If Hell is just the absence of God…I’d rather go there rather than spend eternity worshiping it in heaven.

 

[thau]

A friendly word of advice: most folk here would rather hear your perspective.

Is that your understanding of Hell, or do you believe in the more common fire & brimstone place of torture?

I speak with confidence because I have considered the facts, evidence, reason and objections to God, to Jesus, to the Bible, to the revelations given to many saints, to the claimed miracles, and to the alternatives to God ---- virtually all of my life.

I come away certain that Jesus Christ is who He says He is, all other religions fall far, far short of the ultimate truth, and that hell is as horrible as any man can possibly imagine. The Catholic saints I have read about have validated their life and their words via many different meassures, including miracles performed. Given all of the above, there is no reason in the world I should doubt their accounts of hell as well. So to answer your question --- Yes, that is definitely my belief of hell, to the point of it frightens me greatly I am so sure it's true.

 

[Reverend Richard]

If hell does not exist, then ok, God cannot be in hell.

Just outta curiosity, you wouldn't happen to be thethe ReverendRick?

Ha, the confusion continues...
Paul, when I first registered on this forum I registered as "Rev. Rick".
Not long after that, someone pointed out that there is already a "Reverend Rick" on the forum. So, I had an admin change my User ID to "Reverend Richard".
I thought it might reduce the confusion.
To answer your question, no, I am not Reverend Rick.

 

[robo]

If Hell is just the absence of God…I’d rather go there rather than spend eternity worshiping it in heaven.

Hi Bobby,

You have surely read, Job: A Comedy of Justice by Robert Heinlein?